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Monkey Business at the Amazon Synod: A First Review

October 15, 2019

It’s worse than expected…

Monkey Business at the Amazon Synod: A First Review

The long-awaited and much-touted Pan-Amazon Synod in the Vatican is in full swing, and the first week has seen fireworks. Whether it be an idolatrous ceremony held in the Vatican Gardens, prelates bewailing “ecological sins”, churches being profaned with paganism and indecency, Francis preparing his sheeple for a deluge of “newness”, a nun at the Vatican press conference saying she “hears confessions” in the Amazon region, or the general relator attacking priestly celibacy in his opening address — you name it, the first synod week had it on sale!

In fact, one can probably say that things have been worse than most people expected, and expectations were not high. Even an indigenous protest at St. Peter’s Basilica right after the opening “Mass” was part of the synodal experience, at least until Vatican police took care of the problem. That there are heretical “German fingerprints on this synod” need hardly be mentioned. But either way, before you read on, make sure you fasten your seatbelts: It’s going to be a wild ride!

Spiritual Crime Scene in the Vatican Gardens

The inofficial kickoff for the synod was the gathering in the Vatican Gardens on Oct. 4, an event which was marketed as a dedication of the synod to St. Francis of Assisi. Jorge Bergoglio (“Pope” Francis) himself presided over the celebration and stood by watching when his quasi-prophets from the Amazon began dancing around idols they had placed on the ground and prostrated themselves before them, as we reported in a separate post.

The casual mention of “Mother Earth” — otherwise known as “Gaia” or “Pachamama” — at a subsequent Vatican press conference fit right in with that, and when the professional Bergoglio admirer Austen Ivereigh tried to get “Bishop” David Martínez de Aguirre Guinea to tell the world that the image of a naked fertility goddess apparently worshipped in the Vatican Gardens was really an Amazonian version of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the latter declined to do so. Instead, he answered that there was no need to give it any particular interpretation and that it “probably represented ‘Mother Earth, fertility, woman, life.’” Oops!

To counteract that, Francis’ loyal subjects at Where Peter Is were busy scraping the bottom of the barrel to make the scandalous Oct. 4 event in the Vatican Gardens into a Catholic celebration of the Mother of God, on the grounds that the woman who subsequently handed the carved image over to Francis reportedly said, “[This is] Our Lady of the Amazon.” They furthermore found one “missionary priest for indigenous peoples in Peru” who identifies it as “an image of a [sic] Blessed Mother, who is pregnant. She is the Virgin, and we have called her Our Lady of the Amazon.” But then he elaborates most interestingly: “She represents the Amazon, because what is the Amazon? The Amazon is a woman, she is female, she has a female face. Why? Because the earth is a mother, the earth gives life. So that is the Amazon.” In other words: Mother Mary = Mother Earth = Gaia? Is that where they’re going with this?

It should be pretty clear that merely calling an idol “the pregnant Virgin” or even “Our Lady” does not make it into the Blessed Mother — just as worshipping the moon under the title “queen of heaven” (cf. Jer 7:18) doesn’t make one a Marian devotee — especially when the thing looks more like the Whore of Babylon (cf. Apoc 17:1-5) than the Mother Most Pure. While it is standard Novus Ordo apologist practice to find all kinds of excuses for the “papal” status quo, it is actually not the job of the common lay folk to look for ways to make what to all appearances is abominable idolatrous creature worship into a perfectly Catholic ceremony. Rather, it would be incumbent upon the Vatican to ensure that no scandalous activities take place there, and that anything exotic or unusual that is nevertheless perfectly fine is properly explained beforehand to ensure that no wrong appearances are given and that no one is presented with an unnecessary occasion of sin.

Thus, even if we assume for the sake of argument that what transpired in the Vatican Gardens on Oct. 4 was an entirely Catholic ritual — and it wasn’t! –, nevertheless it clearly had the appearance of being pagan earth worship, on account of which countless people have been scandalized. Scandal is defined in Catholic moral theology as “any conduct that has at least the appearance of evil and that offers to a neighbor an occasion of spiritual ruin” (Rev. John A. McHugh and Rev. Charles J. Callan, Moral Theology, n. 1447; underlining added). So, let’s keep in mind that the burden of proof, or the blame, is not to be shifted onto those “hermeneuts of suspicion” — really, why would anyone have cause to be suspicious about what goes on in the Vatican in 2019 AD?! — but rather is to be found with those Vatican authorities who authorized this wickedness, above all, the Jesuit apostate Bergoglio.

Profanation of Churches

Alas, the abomination was not confined to the Vatican Gardens. That awful naked pregnant Amazonian statue made its way also into the synod audience hall and St. Peter’s Basilica itself — in a canoe, of course! As far as who or what the carved image actually represents, one will probably get as many answers as the number of people one asks. What is definitely going on there is syncretism — the mixing of Catholic elements with pagan earth worship. Even the Novus Ordo grandson of a former shaman was scandalized.

But perhaps the worst of it all took place at the Roman church of Santa Maria in Traspontina, roughly 1,300 feet (400 meters) away from the Vatican. The following tweets show pictures/video of the horrific profanation that took place there under the label of “Amazonian spirituality” (caution! contains nudity):

A report by the so-called Catholic News Agency states:

The Amazon spirituality meeting Oct. 9 included singing and testimonies gathered around various objects from Amazon communities, including a wooden canoe, displayed at the foot of the sanctuary of the church, and a controversial wooden figure of a pregnant woman, which has been described as both a Marian image and as a traditional indigenous religious symbol of the goddess Pachamama, or Mother Earth.

The meeting included a moment where a woman sitting in the canoe was lifted up by participants, and concluded with the praying of the Our Father and Hail Mary.

In addition to posters displaying images of missionaries who have worked, and in some cases died in the Amazon, a poster was displayed in the Church of a woman holding a baby while breastfeeding a small animal.

(“Amazon spirituality events organized by network of Latin American and European groups”Catholic World Report, Oct. 10, 2019)

Yes, you read correctly! The poster displayed a woman breastfeeding an animal! The vile image, obviously containing nudity, was marketed under the theme of “Everything is connected” (“Todo está conectado”), a quote from Francis’ eco-encyclical Laudato Si’ (n. 117)!

An Oct. 11 Life Site report offers additional details, in case your stomach can still take more. And just as we were preparing this post for publication, Life Site‘s editor John-Henry Westen released a brand new video with yet more details about this obscenity:

Interestingly enough, Westen mentions that the Vatican press office has still not responded to their request for information about what that indigenous ceremony in the Vatican Gardens was all about, and specifically what that hideous carved image represents.

If you can’t take it anymore at this point and simply need some comedic relief, a traditionalist member of the Vatican II religion who humorously calls himself Hank Igitur produced a hilarious clip on this madness:

But back to the actual synod.

The “Spirit” bloweth inside the Synod Hall

Francis himself had already prepared his sheeple at the opening “Mass” for the synod on Sunday:

Prudence is not indecision; it is not a defensive attitude. It is the virtue of the pastor who, in order to serve with wisdom, is able to discern, to be receptive to the newness of the Spirit. Rekindling our gift in the fire of the Spirit is the opposite of letting things take their course without doing anything. Fidelity to the newness of the Spirit is a grace that we must ask for in prayer. May the Spirit, who makes all things new, give us his own daring prudence; may he inspire our Synod to renew the paths of the Church in Amazonia, so that the fire of mission will continue to burn.

(“Pope Francis Opens Synod of Bishops for Amazon with Mass in Vatican Basilica”Zenit, Oct. 6, 2019; italics given; underlining added.)

The next day, at the synod’s first blather session, he expressed his displeasure at having heard someone complain of an indigenous man bringing up the gifts (i.e. bread and wine) during the prior day’s liturgy in St. Peter’s while wearing a feathered Indian headdress. “Tell me”, the pseudo-pontiff asked his underlings gathered in the synod hall, “what difference is there between wearing feathers on his head and the three-cornered hat used by some officials in Vatican Departments [i.e. the biretta]?”

There we see the profound spiritual wisdom of Jorge Bergoglio on full display: It’s all the same. All head coverings are the same; all traditions are the same; all times and places are the same; all religions are the same. Hey, everything’s connected, right? So beware: The next time Francis creates bogus cardinals, he may just put Indian feathers on their heads instead of a red hat. At this point, he might as well.

“Cardinal” Claudio Hummes, relator general of the synod, gave the first address after Francis delivered his remarks, and he got right down to business, checking off all of the magic buzzwords in his opening paragraph:

From the very beginning of his papal ministry, Pope Francis has emphasized the Church’s need to move forward. The Church cannot remain inactive within her own closed circle, focused on herself, surrounded by protective walls and even less can she look nostalgically to the past. The Church needs to throw open her doors, knock down the walls surrounding her and build bridges, going out into the world and setting out on the path of history….

(“Introductory Report on Amazon Synod by General Relator, Cardinal Hummes (Full Text)”Zenit, Oct. 7, 2019)

Where have we heard this before? At Vatican II, of course! John XXIII threw open the windows to the world, and a few years later Paul VI feigned surprise that somehow the “smoke of Satan” had entered the church.

Hummes also immediately touched upon that thorn in the flesh that has been piercing the Modernists from time immemorial: priestly celibacy. We may surmise that the approach he took did not catch anyone by surprise:

It will be necessary to define new paths for the future. During the consultation stages, indigenous communities, faced with the urgent need experienced by most of the Catholic communities in Amazonia, requested that the path be opened for the ordination of married men resident in their communities, albeit confirming the great importance of the charisma of celibacy in the Church. At the same time, faced with a great number of women who nowadays lead communities in Amazonia, there is a request that this service be acknowledged and there be an attempt to consolidate it with a suitable ministry for them.

There’s nothing like using an old Vatican II strategy: Get your foot in the door with a revolutionary premise (ordaining married men), then immediately slam the brakes by emphasizing the importance of tradition (“the great importance of the charisma of celibacy”). This way the groundwork for revolution is laid but tempered with a big “however” that is subsequently dispensed with. (Vatican II did this, among other things, with the use of Latin in the Roman liturgy, and we know how that ended.) Now of course we all know that if a married clergy is good enough for Amazonia, then it’s good enough wherever else there is an “urgent need” for priests. After all, when the “Spirit” speaketh, who shall contradict it?!

As for that “suitable ministry” for Amazonian women, even if Club Francis eventually decides against women priests or deacons, there’s no reason why the Bergoglian god of surprises might not reveal some other calling for them, especially considering the “rich tradition” surrounding Gaia, Pachamama, or Mother Earth — entities that are distinctly female.

Towards the end of his report, Hummes even managed to provide the initial premises from which later a kind of pantheism — the idea that everything is God — will be able to be drawn:

Integral ecology teaches us that everything is connected, human beings and nature. All living beings on the planet are children of the earth….

The Son of God too became a man and his human body comes from the earth. In this body, Jesus died for us on the Cross to overcome evil and death, he rose again among the dead and now sits to the right of God the Father in eternal and immortal glory. The Apostle Paul writes, “For in him all the fullness was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile all things for him (…) whether those on earth or those in heaven.” (Col. 1,19-20). In Laudato si’ we read that, “This leads us to direct our gaze to the end of time, when the Son will deliver all things to the Father, so that “God may be everything to everyone” (1 Cor.15:28). Thus, “the creatures of this world no longer appear to us under merely natural guise because the risen One is mysteriously holding them to himself and directing them towards fullness as their end” (LS, 100). It is thus that God has definitively connected Himself to His entire creation. This mystery is accomplished in the sacrament of the Eucharist.

(underlining added)

It won’t take long before someone in the Vatican II Sect will conclude that by worshipping the earth, we are really worshipping God, since, you know, “everything is connected”. And then it simply won’t matter anymore whether we are adoring God the Father or Mother Earth, Jesus Christ or Pachamama, the Holy Ghost or the spirits of the forest, the Holy Eucharist or mere bread. Problem solved! Anything else would mean falling into a ridig black-and-white/either-or mentality that is obviously not open to the “newness of the Spirit”!

Nun says she hears Confessions

A curious incident occurred during the very first day’s press conference. A Novus Ordo nun, Sr. Alba Teresa Cediel Castillo, was part of the Vatican panel, and when she was asked about the work women religious do in the Amazon, she happily shared her experience — including this detail:

Sometimes we also had to listen to confessions. Of course we cannot give absolution but at the bottom of our hearts we place ourselves in a position of listening with humbleness, thinking about the person who comes to us for a word of comfort, somebody who perhaps [is] before death, and so the presence of women in Amazonia is very great and very fertile….

(Source)

What made this more explosive still is that she preceded these remarks by referring to herself as a “woman priest” or “priestess” — and this also confused the translator somewhat because she garbled the sentence a bit, and Sr. Alba’s rapid flow of words didn’t help things.

What the Novus Ordo sister actually said, in Spanish, was this: “Qué hacemos? Por lo que puede ser también una mujer desde el bautismo, como mujeres sacerdotes, como reinas, y como prophetas.” In English: “What do we do? Well, what a woman can also do on account of baptism, as priestesses, as queens, and as prophetesses.” The curious mention of “priestesses, queens, and prophetesses” is a reference to the Novus Ordo teaching that all the baptized are incorporated into Christ’s triple office of Priest, Prophet, and King (see Catechism of the Catholic Churchn. 1241; cf. n. 436). If all the baptized are priests, prophets, and kings in that sense, then it follows that baptized females are priestesses, prophetesses, and queens, right? Perhaps this is the opening that will be used to try to get women ordained in the Vatican II Sect. Considering the context of the synod, the remarks by “Bp.” Adriano Ciocca Vasino, and the “hearing of confessions” the same sister also mentioned, it certainly cannot be ruled out.

But the story doesn’t end there. The Vatican apparently thought Sr. Alba’s words were explosive enough to step in: Although Vatican Media had already put up the full video and audio of the press conference with simultaneous translation on its English language YouTube channel, the video was suddenly removed, without explanation (it is still available, without the translation, on the international Vatican Media channel). Thankfully, we had saved an audio version of the entire press conference in English and thus still have the full clip — the relevant Q&A excerpt can be accessed here.

That same day, the Vatican’s in-house journalist, Andrea Tornielli, put up an article on the English edition of Vatican News regarding the incident, entitled: “Amazonia: the women religious who ‘hear confessions’”. He gives the following rendition of what Sr. Alba said:

We are present everywhere and we do what a woman can do by virtue of her Baptism: we accompany the indigenous people, and when priests cannot be present, we perform baptisms. If someone wants to get married, we are present and we witnesses to the love of the couple. We have often had to listen to confessions, but we have not given absolution. In the depth of our hearts, though, we have said that with the humility with which this man or woman approached us because of illness, or because they were close to death – we believe God the Father intervenes there.

One thing is notably absent: Tornielli chose to omit Sr. Alba’s words about being priestesses, queens, and prophetesses in virtue of baptism — without even so much as indicating the omission through an ellipsis, as is standard professional practice.

After this wild first day of the synod, we produced a 17-minute podcast with commentary on what had transpired. We have embedded it here:

But wait, there’s more!

On Wednesday of the first week of the synod there was proposed an “Amazonian rite of Mass” — as though the liturgical freak shows of the annual diocesan Religious Education Congress in Los Angeles weren’t exotic enough yet. What such an “Amazonian rite” might look like, we can only imagine after seeing the atrocities shown above. Trying to prepare the way to a married priesthood, Austrian “Bp.” Erwin Krautler, a retired “missionary” in Brazil, claimed that the indigenous inhabitants of Amazonia just “do not understand celibacy” — no doubt a most difficult concept to explain in between teaching catechism lessons on the Holy Trinity, the Incarnation of God the Son, and Transubstantiation.

At the press briefing of Oct. 12, the sixth day of the synod, a journalist seriously asked why it would be important to evangelize the Amazon region when the indigenous there already have a religion. That such a question would be raised by anyone attending a Vatican press conference shows what the last six decades of “interreligious dialogue” and “mission” have accomplished. Roughly 100 years earlier, the great Pope St. Pius X, in a beautiful encyclical letter on the indigenous of South America, spoke of his desire “to deliver the Indians, where their need is greatest, from the slavery of Satan…” (Encyclical Lacrimabili Statu, n. 6). How’s that for an answer!

By the way: Amazonians who disagree with Francis’ leftist agenda, do not have much of a voice at the synod, unsurprisingly. “A Synod exists to listen constantly to the Holy Spirit”, Vatican News proclaims, but, as Robert Royal so aptly put it: “The ‘listening Church’ that we have heard so much about in recent years seems very much to listen with the left ear, not the right.” Touché!

At the same time, of course we must give credit where it’s due: At least there were clear calls to conversion at the synod. Granted, the context was ecological conversion, but at least in that one regard conversion isn’t optional and proselytism is still permitted — so much so that “the Church must speak with a prophetic voice in order for the issue of integral ecology to enter the agenda of international bodies”, a decisive affirmation the likes of which one will search for in vain with regard to the Social Kingship of Christ, about which Pope Pius XI proclaimed less than a century earlier: “While nations insult the beloved name of our Redeemer by suppressing all mention of it in their conferences and parliaments, we must all the more loudly proclaim his kingly dignity and power, all the more universally affirm his rights” (Encyclical Quas Primas, n. 25).

Besides conversion, confession of sins too was a hot topic during the synod’s first week — confession of ecological sins, that is, and to priests rather than female religious:

A desire was also expressed for an “ecological conversion” that would allow people see the gravity of sins against the environment as sins against God, against our neighbour, and against future generations. This would imply a need to produce and spread more widely a theological literature that would include “ecological sins” alongside traditional sins.

(“Amazon Synod Day 2: The Church confesses ‘ecological sins’”Vatican News, Oct. 8, 2019)

Perhaps the only way to prevent the mass production of pertinent “theological literature” would be to remind people that printed paper requires the use of trees, which are a precious ecological resource that surely we cannot afford to waste. “Everything is connected”, we have learned, and who’d want to mess with that cycle?

The “Resistance” speaks — sort of

With all this madness going on in the Eternal City, Novus Ordo conservatives were disappointed to find that their “only friend in the Vatican”, “Cardinal” Robert Sarah, had preemptively shot down any suggestion that he might be a voice of opposition to the Jesuit apostate from Buenos Aires. In an interview published in the Italian press on Oct. 7, Sarah declared:

The truth is that the Church is represented on earth by the vicar of Christ, that is by the pope. And whoever is against the pope is, ipso facto, outside the Church…. Those who place me in opposition to the Holy Father cannot present a single word of mine, a single phrase or a single attitude of mine to support their absurd – and I would say, diabolical – affirmations…. I would add that every pope is right for his time. Providence looks after us very well, you know.

(“Cardinal” Robert Sarah, quoted in Cindy Wooden, “Cardinal Sarah: To oppose the pope is to be outside the Church”Crux, Oct. 9, 2019.)

As Scripture says: “Put not your trust in princes” (Ps 145:2). According to Catholic doctrine, the only one you can always count on to be your safe teacher on matters of Faith and morals is the Pope, a truth which clearly disqualifies Bergoglio from the start.

Naturally, the unemployed Vatican “Cardinal” Gerhard Ludwig Muller once again positioned himself as a conservative voice highly critical of the synod, pretending not to be a Modernist himself. At least he had a most apt and memorable line in his interview with Il Foglio: “…the mission of Peter and of his successors consists in uniting all believers in faith in Christ, who did not recommend involvement with the waters of the Jordan or the vegetation of Galilee.”

Right now Rome is an infernal mess. Not that that would be news, but it’s never been worse than now. When Francis’ bosom buddy Eugenio Scalfari wrote in one of Italy’s most widely-read newspapers that “Pope” Bergoglio had told him he doesn’t believe that Jesus Christ is God, the Vatican press office was merely able to produce two carefully-worded non-denials. At this point, it’s par for the course.

With all of these developments, what has been the reaction of the Novus Ordo conservatives and recognize-and-resist traditionalists?

In a video message blasting the synod, a confused John-Henry Westen declared within the same 60 seconds that “what is plainly obvious is that what is being set up is a false church…” and yet that “we won’t leave the church — this is the one true Church, and there is no other.” Got it.

Over at Crisis, which should consider renaming itself into Catastrophe at this point, writer Julia Meloni says that with the Amazon Synod, a Pandora’s box has been opened. Another scathing summary of the “hot mess” that is the apostate synod in Rome was posted by Mark Lambert.

Meanwhile, The Remnant offered its usual Catholicism-free do-it-yourself traditionalism. Reporting straight from Rome, Michael Matt chronicled in several videos (see here and here and here and here, for example) the apostasy unfolding in the Eternal City. Still believing, however, that the people responsible for this wickedness are the legitimate Roman Catholic hierarchs, he effectively turned himself into an apostle for a defected Church, which is heresy. Verbally blaming it on some unspecified “human element” doesn’t get him off the hook, however, since if the official teachings, laws, and sacramental rites of the Church are the human element, then there is nothing left to constitute the divine.

As Pope Leo XIII taught very clearly and beautifully:

In the Catholic Church Christianity is incarnate. It identifies itself with that perfect, spiritual, and, in its own order, sovereign society, which is the mystical body of Jesus Christ and which has for its visible head the Roman Pontiff, successor of the Prince of the Apostles. It is the continuation of the mission of the Saviour, the daughter and the heiress of His redemption. It has preached the Gospel, and has defended it at the price of its blood, and strong in the Divine assistance, and of that immortality which have been promised it, it makes no terms with error, but remains faithful to the commands which it has received to carry the doctrine of Jesus Christ to the uttermost limits of the world and to the end of time and to protect it in its inviolable integrity.

(Pope Leo XIII, Apostolic Letter Annum Ingressi)

On the eve of the synod, Remnant contributor and blatant public heretic Hilary White had claimed that the people she recognizes as the highest ecclesiastical authorities have no power to inflict canonical penalties on the laity: “No one here can be placed under any canonical sanctions”, she remarked, contrasting the laity with the clergy who might be punished by their superiors.

But is that so? Even a cursory look at canon law refutes that notion: “The law gives … a list of the principal penalties common to clergy and laity, which ecclesiastical superiors can inflict upon any member of the Church according to his guilt”, canon law professor Fr. H. A. Ayrinhac writes in his formidable work Penal Legislation in the New Code of Canon Law ([New York, NY: Benziger Brothers, 1920], n. 158; p. 154; underlining added).

This should not be surprising. After all, laymen are part of the Church as much as any other member, hence they are not immune from judgments and penalties for grave wrongs committed. The Pope and the bishops are the shepherds, and the faithful are the sheep ruled by them. In 1870 the First Vatican Council clearly defined the Pope’s jurisdiction as being not only over the clergy but also the laity, both collectively and individually:

If anyone thus speaks, that the Roman Pontiff has only the office of inspection or direction, but not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the universal Church, not only in things which pertain to faith and morals, but also in those which pertain to the discipline and government of the Church spread over the whole world; or, that he possesses only the more important parts, but not the whole plenitude of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate, or over the churches altogether and individually, and over the pastors and the faithful altogether and individually: let him be anathema.

(First Vatican Council, Dogmatic Constitution Pastor Aeternus, Chapter 3; Denz. 1831; underlining added.)

That probably won’t impress Miss White very much, however, considering that she is on record publicly doubting (=denying) Vatican I, which is heresy. To a Catholic, on the other hand, the issue is clear. It’s really tragic but at times it seems that the only non-negotiable qualification one must have to be allowed to write for The Remnant is not being a sedevacantist.

Apocalypse Now

Ladies and gentlemen, it looks like the Vatican II Sect is nearing its well-deserved end. The Novus Ordo Modernists have discovered the “noble savage” in the Amazon and are preparing to synthesize his idolatrous indigenous nature religion with the Vatican II religion. Which, frankly, isn’t all that difficult, considering what the apostate council declared:

…[O]ther religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing “ways,” comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.

(Vatican II, Declaration Nostra Aetate, n. 2)

Ah yes, everything is connected. There we go again.

What is happening now in Rome clearly has apocalyptic contours and is perhaps ushering in the worst but final stage of the apostasy. At the synod, though, they won’t care. They “have eyes and see not”, “noses and smell not” (Ps 113:13,14). They are too busy walking together, probably even moving forward.

And move forward they will — straight into the abyss.

 

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The Heresies of “Cardinal” Muller, Part 2: Denial of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary

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Oops: The former “guardian of orthodoxy” is a heretic himself!

The Heresies of “Cardinal” Müller, Part 2:
His Denial of the Perpetual Virginity of the Mother of God

[UPDATED 27-JUN-2019: Replaced our own translation of Rahner quote with official translation published in 1966.]

In recent years it has become fashionable in conservative Novus Ordo and even semi-traditionalist circles to promote the German “Cardinal” Gerhard Ludwig Müller (b. 1947) as a conservative stalwart of Catholic doctrine, simply because he opposes adultery, women’s ordination, and a few other ultra-Modernist pet ideas. In February of this year, Müller issued what he called a Manifesto of Faith, and just last month he published an entire book that purports to be a defense of Catholicism against current errors mostly disseminated by Francis or his henchmen.

The truth about this former Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (2012-2017), however, is quite different. Not only is Müller not a guardian of orthodoxy, but in his positions as professor of theology, doctrinal advisor to the German Novus Ordo bishops’ conference, and one-term head of the Vatican’s doctrinal office, few men in the world have done more to undermine Catholic dogma and harm souls than this Gerhard Müller.

In Part 1 of this series, we exposed and refuted the man’s bold and egregious denial of the Catholic dogma of Transubstantiation, in place of which he holds a bizarre position that is perhaps best termed “Transcommunication”. According to Müller, during the consecration the priest does not change the substance of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ while the appearances of bread and wine remain. Rather, “body and blood here mean the presence of Christ in the sign of the medium of bread and wine, which is made communicable in the here and now of sense-bound human perception”, the Neo-Modernist claims, adding that “[j]ust as before Easter the disciples were perceptibly together with Jesus by hearing his words and perceiving him in his sensory figure in accordance with human nature, we now have fellowship with Jesus Christ, communicated through the eating and drinking of the bread and the wine.” (All source documentation is provided in our article.)

In this current post, we will examine what the heretical Novus Ordo cardinal has said regarding the Perpetual Virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God.

Before we can fruitfully do so, we must recall to mind what the Catholic dogma on this subject states, namely, that the Blessed Virgin Mary was a virgin (a) before the birth of Christ; (b) duringthe birth of Christ; and (c) ever after the birth of Christ. That this has been taught by the Catholic Church dogmatically is easy to demonstrate (all underlining added; quotes that apply to more than one category will be repeated as necessary for the sake of a more complete record):

(a) The Blessed Mother a Virgin before the Birth of our Lord

I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only son, our Lord, who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary….

(Apostolic Creed; Denz. 2)

For we should not now be able to overcome the author of sin and death unless [Christ] took our nature on Him and made it His own, whom neither sin could pollute nor death retain. Doubtless then, He was conceived of the Holy Spirit within the womb of His Virgin Mother, who brought Him forth without the loss of her virginity, even as she conceived Him without its loss.

(Pope St. Leo I, Epistle 28 to Flavian, sec. II)

Therefore, because the Son of God was properly and truly made flesh from her and born of her, we confess that she was properly and truly the Mother of God made incarnate and born from her, and (properly indeed), lest it be believed that the Lord Jesus received the name of God through honor or grace, as the foolish Nestorius thinks; but truly for this reason, lest it be believed that He took flesh in a phantasm or some other manner, not true flesh from the virgin, just as the impious Eutyches has asserted.

(Pope John II, Epistle Olim QuidemDenz. 202)

By the heart we believe and by the mouth we confess that the Incarnation of the Divinity took place neither in the Father, nor in the Holy Spirit, but in the Son only; so that He who was in the Divinity the Son of God the Father, true God from the Father, was in the humanity the son of man, true man from a mother, having true flesh from the womb of his mother and a human rational soul; at the same time of each nature, that is God and man, one Person, one Son, one Christ, one God with the Father and the Holy Spirit, the author and ruler of all, born from the Virgin Mary in a true birth of the flesh….

(Pope Innocent III, Apostolic Letter Eius ExemploDenz. 422)

And finally the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, incarnate by the whole Trinity in common, conceived of Mary ever Virgin with the Holy Spirit cooperating, made true man, formed of a rational soul and human flesh, one Person in two natures, clearly pointed out the way of life.

(Fourth Lateran Council, Chapter 1; Denz. 429)

Since the depravity and iniquity of certain men have reached such a point in our time that, of those who wander and deviate from the Catholic faith, very many indeed not only presume to profess different heresies but also to deny the foundations of the faith itself, and by their example lead many away to the destruction of their souls, we, in accord with our pastoral office and charity, desiring, in so far as we are able with God, to call such men away from so grave and destructive an error, and with paternal severity to warn the rest, lest they fall into such impiety, all and each who have hitherto asserted, claimed or believed that … [the] most blessed Virgin Mary was not the true mother of God, and did not always persist in the integrity of virginity, namely, before bringing forth, at bringing forth, and always after bringing forth, on the part of the omnipotent God the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with apostolic authority we demand and advise, etc.

(Pope Paul IV, Ordinance Cum QuorundamDenz. 993)

(b) The Blessed Mother a Virgin during the Birth of our Lord

For we should not now be able to overcome the author of sin and death unless [Christ] took our nature on Him and made it His own, whom neither sin could pollute nor death retain. Doubtless then, He was conceived of the Holy Spirit within the womb of His Virgin Mother, who brought Him forth without the loss of her virginity, even as she conceived Him without its loss.

(Pope St. Leo I, Epistle 28 to Flavian, sec. II)

If anyone does not properly and truly confess in accord with the holy Fathers, that the holy Mother of God and ever Virgin and immaculate Mary in the earliest of the ages conceived of the Holy Spirit without seed, namely, God the Word Himself specifically and truly, who was born of God the Father before all ages, and that she incorruptibly bore [Him], her virginity remaining indestructibleeven after His birth, let him be condemned.

(Pope St. Martin I, Lateran Synod, Session 5, Canon 3; Denz. 256)

Since the depravity and iniquity of certain men have reached such a point in our time that, of those who wander and deviate from the Catholic faith, very many indeed not only presume to profess different heresies but also to deny the foundations of the faith itself, and by their example lead many away to the destruction of their souls, we, in accord with our pastoral office and charity, desiring, in so far as we are able with God, to call such men away from so grave and destructive an error, and with paternal severity to warn the rest, lest they fall into such impiety, all and each who have hitherto asserted, claimed or believed that … [the] most blessed Virgin Mary was not the true mother of God, and did not always persist in the integrity of virginity, namely, before bringing forth, at bringing forth, and always after bringing forth, on the part of the omnipotent God the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with apostolic authority we demand and advise, etc.

(Pope Paul IV, Ordinance Cum QuorundamDenz. 993)

(c) The Blessed Mother a Virgin ever after the Birth of our Lord

Surely, we cannot deny that regarding the sons of Mary the statement is justly censured, and your holiness has rightly abhorred it, that from the same virginal womb, from which according to the flesh Christ was born, another offspring was brought forth. For neither would the Lord Jesus have chosen to be born of a virgin, if he had judged she would be so incontinent, that with the seed of human copulation she would pollute that generative chamber of the Lord’s body, that palace of the eternal King. For he who imputes this, imputes nothing other than the falsehood of the Jews, who say that he could not have been born of a virgin. For, if they accept this authority from the priests, that Mary seems to have brought forth many children, they strive to sweep away the truth of faith with greater zeal.

(Pope St. Siricius, Epistle Accepi Litteras VestrasDenz. 91)

We rightly teach that the glorious holy ever Virgin Mary is acknowledged by Catholic men [to be] both properly and truly the one who bore God, and the Mother of God’s Word, become incarnate from her.

(Pope John II, Epistle Olim QuidemDenz. 202)

If anyone does not confess that there are two generations of the Word of God, the one from the Father before the ages, without time and incorporeally, the other in the last days, when the same came down from heaven, and was incarnate of the holy and glorious Mother of God and ever Virgin Mary, and was born of her, let such a one be anathema.

(Second Council of Constantinople, Anathemas concerning the “Three Chapters”, Canon 2; Denz. 214)

If anyone does not properly and truly confess in accord with the holy Fathers, that the holy Mother of God and ever Virgin and immaculate Mary in the earliest of the ages conceived of the Holy Spirit without seed, namely, God the Word Himself specifically and truly, who was born of God the Father before all ages, and that she incorruptibly bore [Him], her virginity remaining indestructible even after His birth, let him be condemned.

(Pope St. Martin I, Lateran Synod, Session 5, Canon 3; Denz. 256)

And finally the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, incarnate by the whole Trinity in common, conceived of Mary ever Virgin with the Holy Spirit cooperating, made true man, formed of a rational soul and human flesh, one Person in two natures, clearly pointed out the way of life.

(Fourth Lateran Council, Chapter 1; Denz. 429)

Since the depravity and iniquity of certain men have reached such a point in our time that, of those who wander and deviate from the Catholic faith, very many indeed not only presume to profess different heresies but also to deny the foundations of the faith itself, and by their example lead many away to the destruction of their souls, we, in accord with our pastoral office and charity, desiring, in so far as we are able with God, to call such men away from so grave and destructive an error, and with paternal severity to warn the rest, lest they fall into such impiety, all and each who have hitherto asserted, claimed or believed that … [the] most blessed Virgin Mary was not the true mother of God, and did not always persist in the integrity of virginity, namely, before bringing forth, at bringing forth, and always after bringing forth, on the part of the omnipotent God the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with apostolic authority we demand and advise, etc.

(Pope Paul IV, Ordinance Cum QuorundamDenz. 993)

Since the Mother of God remained a virgin even during the Birth of our Blessed Lord, it is clear that His sacred Birth was miraculous. On this point St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine instruct us:

We must therefore say that all these things took place miraculously by Divine power. Whence Augustine says (Sup. Joan. Tract. 121): “To the substance of a body in which was the Godhead closed doors were no obstacle. For truly He had power to enter in by doors not open, in Whose Birth His Mother’s virginity remained inviolate.”

(St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa TheologicaIII, q. 28, a. 2, ad 3)

By way of analogy, we may say that our Lord came forth from the womb of the Blessed Virgin in a way similar to how rays of light go through glass without harming its integrity. It should not surprise us that just as the Conception of our Lord at the Annunciation was miraculous, so was His holy Birth! Indeed, the entire Incarnation — God becoming man — is nothing but a miracle! Thus Pope Pius XII writes:

Within her virginal womb Christ our Lord already bore the exalted title of Head of the Church; in a marvelous birth she brought Him forth as the source of all supernatural life, and presented Him, newly born, as Prophet, King, and Priest to those who, from among Jews and Gentiles, were the first to come to adore Him.

(Pope Pius XII, Encyclical Mystici Corporis, n. 110; underlining added.)

Before we take apart the Modernist drivel “Cardinal” Müller has foisted upon the masses on this subject, we note that Fr. Ludwig Ott labels all three components of this dogma “de fide” in his pre-Vatican II handbook on dogmatic theology (see Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, 4th ed. [reprint by TAN Books, 2009], pp. 204-206).

This means that to deny even one of these three elements constitutes heresy. If held pertinaciously and divulged publicly, such heresy automatically expels one from membership in the Catholic Church: “For not every sin, however grave it may be, is such as of its own nature to sever a man from the Body of the Church, as does schism or heresy or apostasy” (Pius XII, Mystici Corporis, n. 23; cf. Canon 2314 §1).

Fr. Ott also clarifies the precise meaning of the term “virginity” with regard to this dogma:

Mary’s virginity includes virginitas mentis, that is, a constant virginal disposition, virginitas sensus, that is, freedom from inordinate motions of sexual desire, and virginitas corporis, that is, physical integrity. The Church doctrine refers primarily to Her bodily integrity.

(Rev. Dr. Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, p. 204; italics added; underlining added.)

Although the Perpetual Virginity is obviously a miracle and a great mystery, wrought by the almighty power of God, it is nevertheless not difficult to understand the content of this dogma; that is, we know what the dogma says and what it means.

This is where “Cardinal” Müller comes in.

Like all Modernists, Müller has the uncanny gift of obfuscating and reducing a clear and precise dogma to the point of utter unintelligibility, with the specious justification that this is somehow useful in communicating theology to modern man. (We all know how well that has been working out.) As the pertinent parts from his 900-page dogmatic theology manual Katholische Dogmatik (partially published since as Catholic Dogmatics) have not been released in English yet, we will use the original German text and provide our own translation. We are using the 10th and latest edition of Katholische Dogmatik (Freiburg: Herder, 2016).

Müller is extremely difficult to read and follow. If the quotes below seem hard to make sense of, therefore, the fault is to be sought with the author and not with the translator. Gobbledygook is gobbledygook, whether it is rendered in German or in English.

Brace yourselves, then. It’s going to be a wild ride.

(a’) Müller on the Virginity of Mary before the Birth of our Lord

Although Müller’s most blatant denial of the dogma concerns the Blessed Mother’s virginity during the birth of our Lord, as we will see shortly, the pseudo-Catholic thinker also undermines the virginal conception of Christ by trying to force it through philosophical concepts drawn from the transcendental idealism of the father of Modernism, the Lutheran Immanuel Kant (1724-1804). The result is an utterly confusing mess that reads as follows:

The conception of the eternal Word of God as man of the Virgin Mary through the creative power of the divine Spirit (conceptus de spiritu sancto natus ex Maria virgine) already appears in the earliest creeds as an integral part of Catholic dogma.

What is meant [by this dogma] is not the deviation from a biological rule and the generation of Jesus from a theogamous union, as it is found in the Egyptian and Hellenistic myths, where it results in the biological constitution of a divine-human hybrid. Rather, what is meant is a process that surpasses every possibility of nature and of human imagination, [namely, that] of self-communication of the eternal Word (Son) of God into the concrete existence of a historical man without the secondary-causal and creaturely means of procreation. The virginal conception is not the cause of the eternal Divine Sonship of the Logos [=Word] and of the inclusion of the human nature of Christ into the relation of the eternal Son to the Father but [is] its effect and its symbolic representation in the condition-framework of human experience. The direct object of faith [in this dogma] is God’s action and his presence in the effect, that is, in the conception and birth of the eternal Son of God as man of the Virgin Mary. Thus the conception of Jesus by the Holy Ghost is the metaphysical cause of the Incarnation, while the conception and birth [of Jesus] of the Virgin Mary represents the reality-symbol of the Incarnation.

[German original:]

Die Empfängnis des ewigen Wortes Gottes als Mensch von der Jungfrau Maria durch die Schöpfermacht des göttlichen Geistes (conceptus de spiritu sancto natus ex Maria virgine) erscheint schon in den frühesten Glaubensbekenntnissen als fester Bestandteil des kirchlichen Dogmas.

Gemeint ist nicht die Abweichung von einer biologischen Regel und die Entstehung Jesu aus einer theogamen Verbindung, wie sie in den ägyptischen und hellenistischen Mythen vorkommt und dort die biologische Konstitution eines götter-menschlichen Mischwesens zur Folge hat. Thematisiert wird vielmehr der alle Möglichkeiten der Natur und der menschlichen Vorstellung übergreifende Vorgang der Selbstvermittlung des ewigen Wortes (Sohnes) Gottes in die konkrete Existenz eines geschichtlichen Menschen ohne die zweitursächliche und geschöpfliche Vermittlung einer geschlechtlichen Zeugung. Die jungfräuliche Empfängnis ist nicht die Ursache der ewigen Gottessohnschaft des Logos und der Aufnahme der menschlichen Natur Christi in die Relation des ewigen Sohnes zum Vater, sondern ihre Wirkung und ihre symbolische Repräsentanz im Bedingungsrahmen menschlicher Erfahrung. Der Glaube richtet sich unmittelbar auf das Wirken Gottes und seine Vergegenwärtigung in der Wirkung, nämlich der Empfängnis und Geburt des ewigen Gottessohnes als Mensch aus der Jungfrau Maria. So ist die Empfängnis Jesu vom Heiligen Geist die metaphysische Ursache der Inkarnation, während die Empfängnis und Geburt aus der Jungfrau Maria das Realsymbol der Inkarnation darstellt.

(Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Katholische Dogmatik, 10th ed., p. 489; underlining added.)

It is difficult to decipher exactly what Müller is actually trying to put forward here, but it is clear that he does not have in mind the traditional Catholic dogma of the virginal conception of the Christ Child or the truth of the Blessed Mother as “Spouse of the Holy Ghost” (Pope Pius X, Encyclical Une Fois Encore, n. 21). If he did, he would have simply said so. Instead, he goes out of his way to come up with all sorts of bizarre and smart-sounding concepts that do not restate or explain but rather obscure the teaching as the Church has quite intelligibly passed it on for twenty centuries, as quoted earlier.

Furthermore, notice that Muller does not say that the virginal conception of Christ by the Holy Ghost in the womb of the Virgin Mary is more than the mere deviation from a biological rule. Rather, he says it is not such a deviation, when the obvious fact of the matter is that if a virginal conception is anything, it is a deviation from human biology!

Further on in his treatise, the German Modernist doubles down:

The meaning of belief in the virginal conception of Jesus by the Holy Ghost cannot be deduced from within the horizon of a biological exception but solely within the theological horizon of the unique fact that God does not want to take on an already-existing man and reveal himself through him but, rather, that God himself wants to become man.

[German original:]

Der Sinn des Glaubens an die jungfräuliche Empfängnis Jesu aus dem Heiligen Geist erschließt sich nicht im Horizont eines biologischen Ausnahmefalles, sondern allein im theologischen Horizont der einzigartigen Tatsache, dass Gott nicht einen vorhandenen Menschen annehmen und sich durch ihn aussagen will, sondern dass Gott selbst Mensch werden will.

(Katholische Dogmatik, p. 491)

So many horizons, so little Catholicism! Cutting through the verbiage, one can simply observe that the two ideas Muller juxtaposes are not exclusive of one another. The fact that God Himself wants to become man does not exclude the biological exception of a virginal conception and birth. On the contrary, it renders such, if perhaps not absolutely necessary, at least highly fitting.

(b’) Müller on the Virginity of Mary during the Birth of our Lord

While some will argue that Müller’s exposition of the virginal conception of Christ can still be somehow “understood in an orthodox sense” — as though the German Modernist could not simply have written it in an unquestionably orthodox way — this same argument cannot be made with regard to what he says about the virginity of the Blessed Mother during the Birth of our Lord:

Beyond a Gnostic-dualistic misinterpretation of the virginitas in partu [virginity during birth] as a denial of the reality of the humanity of Christ…, the Catholic doctrine must be interpreted in the sense of the reality of the Incarnation. We are not talking about deviating physiological particularities during the natural birth process (such as the non-opening of the birth canal, the non-injuring of the [term suppressed by the translator for the sake of modesty], and the absence of labor pains) but about the saving and redeeming influx of the grace of the Redeemer on human nature, which had been “wounded” by original sin. For a mother, giving birth is not limited merely to a biological process. It constitutes a personal relationship with the child. The passive conditions of birth are integrated into this personal relationship and intrinsically determined by it. The peculiarity of Mary’s personal relationship to Jesus is determined by the fact that he is the Redeemer and that her relationship to him is to be understood within an encompassing theological horizon. …[T]hrough her “yes” to God becoming incarnate of her, in the act of giving birth Mary’s relationship to Jesus is also to be seen already within the horizon of the eschatological salvation that took place in Christ. The content of the doctrine, then, does not refer to physiological and empirically verifiable somatic details. Rather, it recognizes in the birth of Christ already the signs of the eschatological salvation of the messianic end time which began with Jesus (cf. Is 66:7-10; Ez 44:1 f.). With regard to the theological interpretation of Mary’s freedom from “pain” at the salvific event of the Redeemer’s birth, the doctrine of Mary’s acceptance of the Cross, which is attested to in the Bible, is also to be taken into consideration (Lk 2:35; Jn 19:25). With Mary as its model, Christian spirituality recognizes in every birth which a woman accepts in faith, an experience of the eschatological arrival of salvation.

[German original:]

Jenseits einer gnostisch-dualistischen Missdeutung der virginitas in partu als Verleugnung der Realität der Menschheit Jesu … muss die kirchliche Lehre im Sinne der Realität der Inkarnation ausgelegt werden. Es geht nicht um abweichende physiologische Besonderheiten in dem natürlichen Vorgang der Geburt (wie etwa die Nichteröffnung der Geburtswege, die Nichtverletzung des [vom Übersetzer der Sittsamkeit wegen gelöscht] und der nicht eingetretenen Geburtsschmerzen), sondern um den heilenden und erlösenden Einfluss der Gnade des Erlösers auf die menschliche Natur, die durch die Ursünde “verletzt” worden war. Die Geburt beschränkt sich für die Mutter nicht lediglich auf einen biologischen Vorgang. Sie konstituiert ein personales Verhältnis zum Kind. Die passiven Bedingungen der Geburt sind in diese Personalrelation integriert und innerlich davon bestimmt. Die Besonderheit des Personalverhältnisses Marias zu Jesus ist dadurch bestimmt, dass er der Erlöser ist und dass ihr Verhältnis zu ihm in einem umgreifenden theologischen Horizont zu verstehen ist. … Durch ihr Ja-Wort aber zur Menschwerdung Gottes aus ihr ist Marias Verhältnis zu Jesus auch im Akt der Geburt schon im Horizont des eschatologischen Heils zu sehen, das sich in Christus ereignet hat. Der Inhalt der Glaubensaussage bezieht sich also nicht auf physiologisch und empirisch verifizierbare somatische Details. Sie erkennt vielmehr in der Geburt Christi schon die Vorzeichen des eschatologischen Heils der messianischen Endzeit, die mit Jesus angebrochen ist (vgl. Jes 66,7-10; Ez 44,1 f.). Bei der theologischen Interpretation der Freiheit Marias vom “Schmerz” bei dem Heilsereignis der Geburt des Erlösers ist auch die biblisch bezeugte Lehre von der Kreuzesnachfolge Marias zu berücksichtigen (Lk 2,35; Joh 19,25). Die christliche Spiritualität erkennt, nach dem Vorbild Maria, in jeder Geburt, die eine Frau im Glauben annimmt, eine Erfahrung des endzeitlich gekommenen Heiles.

(Katholische Dogmatik, p. 492; underlining added.)

Wow!

Cloaked in a convoluted waterfall of words, Müller directly denies the very essence of this element of the dogma, which is precisely the physical intergrity of the Blessed Virgin during the act of giving birth, and not some kind of wonderful experience of streams of grace in a unique personal relation within an eschatological horizon — whatever that is supposed to mean.

We recall here Fr. Ott’s words that “[t]he Church doctrine refers primarily to Her bodily integrity”, as quoted earlier. “Virginity is the bodily integrity of a woman”, Fr. Joseph de Aldama, S.J., likewise explains in his Mariological treatise for the Sacrae Theologiae Summacollection. With regard to Mary’s virginity specifically during birth, he spells out:

b) The virginal birth of Christ, that is, [it occurred] without detriment to bodily integrity. The conservation of this bodily integrity and the absence of pain in giving birth are so connected in the perpetual belief of the Church and in patristic tradition with the virginal birth that they must be retained as necessary elements of the dogma of the virginal birth. However we assert only the fact of this element, prescinding from any further explanation. This is virginity in giving birth.

(Rev. Joseph A. de Aldama, Sacrae Theologiae Summa IIIA: On the Blessed Virgin Mary, n. 104; italics given.)

In a footnote, de Aldama adds: “Hence in no way can consent be given to the recent interpretation of virginity, which wants to prescind from this bodily integrity and absence of pain in giving birth” (ibid., fn. 1). And yet that is precisely what Müller and his Modernist colleagues and mentors have been doing. The perpetual virginity of the Blessed Mother is a bodily virginity in every sense, and that is the dogma — nothing else.

The celebrated 19th-century theologian Fr. Matthias Scheeben (1835-1888) writes in his two-volume work on Marian doctrine:

…Mary retained her virginity in bringing forth as she did when she conceived.

…The first and most essential element in the supernatural birth of Christ lies in the fact that He appeared from the bosom of His mother utero clauso et obsignato [from a closed and sealed womb], as He later appeared at His Resurrection ex sepulchro clauso et obsignato [from a closed and sealed tomb], which formed as it were His second bodily birth. As a second element, naturally consequent upon the first, the birth of Christ was also effected without pain to the mother, just as it took place without the violation of the bodily integrity of the mother through effractio [rupturing] or violatio claustri virginalis [violation of the virginal enclosure].

(Rev. M. J. Scheeben, Mariology, vol. 1, trans. by Rev. T. L. M. J. Geukers [St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1946], pp. 102, 103-104; italics given; underlining added.)

Here too we see that the dogma of the Perpetual Virginity concerns the physical integrity of the Blessed Mother during the Birth of Christ, which was obviously miraculous.

But Müller is not done yet. As if wishing to render his heretical depravity even more certain, the pseudo-Catholic “cardinal” goes on to refer the reader to a theological hero of his, saying that “the content of faith of the Virginitas in partu [virginity during birth] is aptly conveyed by Karl Rahner”, whom he then quotes as follows:

“…Church doctrine affirms, with the real substance of tradition, that Mary’s child-birth, as regards both child and mother, like the conception, is, in its total reality, as the completely human act of this ‘virgin’, in itself (and not just by reason of the conception…), an act corresponding to the nature of this mother, and hence it is unique, miraculous and ‘virginal’. But this proposition, which is directly intelligible, does not offer us the possibility of deducing assertions about the concrete details of the process, which would be certainand universally binding.

(Karl Rahner, “Virginitas in Partu”, in Theological Investigations, vol. IV, trans. by Kevin Smyth [Baltimore, MD: Helicon Press, 1966], p. 162; italics given.)

[German original:]

“…die Lehre der Kirche sagt mit dem eigentlichen Kern der Tradition: die (aktive) Geburt Marias ist (von dem Kind und seiner Mutter her), so wie ihr Empfangen, von der Gesamtwirklichkeit her (als ganzmenschlicher Akt dieser ‘Jungfrau’) auch in sich (und nicht nur von der Empfängnis her […]) dieser Mutter entsprechend und darum einmalig, wunderbar, ‘jungfräulich’, ohne daß wir aus diesem Satz (der in sich aber verständlich ist), die Möglichkeit haben, sicher und für alle verpflichtend, Aussagen über konkreteEinzelheiten dieses Vorgangs abzuleiten.”

(Karl Rahner, “Virginitas in Partu”, in Schriften zur Theologie, vol. IV [Einsiedeln: Benziger Verlag, 1966], p. 205; quoted in Müller, Katholische Dogmatik, p. 492-493.)

Heresy! Blasphemy!

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the Novus Ordo giant Fr. Karl Rahner, S.J. (1904-1984), quoted approvingly by “Cardinal” Muller, the supposedly great conservative and orthodox counterpart to the Modernist Francis.

When Rahner first published this trash, although Pope Pius XII had already died, it did not remain without consequences: “An article on the perpetual virginity of Mary, published in 1960, created such anxiety that, in 1962, the Holy Office required his work to be submitted to even stricter censorship”, writes the Novus Ordo theologian Fr. Fergus Kerr (Twentieth-Century Catholic Theologians [Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing, 2007], p. 89).

Notice that Rahner even has the gall to mockingly put quotation marks around the terms “virgin” and “virginal” when referring to the Mother of God and her maternity! Since Müller agrees with him, he must be blamed as well.

All this is sufficient to convict “Cardinal” Müller of heresy, but there is a bit more to go over still.

(c’) Müller on the Virginity of Mary ever after the Birth of our Lord

Suprisingly, our “guardian of orthodoxy” does not deny that the Blessed Mother was a virgin after the Birth of Jesus Christ. However, even on this point Müller lays the groundwork forundermining the dogma. After conceding that Mary did not consummate her marriage with St. Joseph at any point, Müller writes:

This statement of belief rests on an argument from suitability. It originates in faith-filled reflection. The early church understood the virginity of Mary as a statement about her integrally human, personally and salvation-historically significant relatedness to the God of revelation and to the historical fulfillment of revelation in the life of Jesus. The uniqueness of this conception and birth corresponds also to the uniqueness of Mary’s relationship with God. The virginal divine maternity is thus the personal center of this relationship with God and of the fulfillment of her life.

The mariological ideas of the Church Fathers concerning the virginity of Mary after the birth [of Christ] were formed in particular in connection with the Christian ideal of celibacy for the sake of the kingdom of heaven (Mt 19:12) and the evangelical counsel to this Christian way of life “for the sake of the things of the Lord” (1 Cor 7:25-38).

[German original:]

Die Glaubensaussage ruht hier auf einem Konvenienzargument. Sie entstammt glaubender Überlegung. Die frühe Kirche begriff die Jungfräulichkeit Marias als eine Aussage über ihre ganz-menschliche, personal und heilsgeschichtlich bedeutsame Bezogenheit auf den Gott der Offenbarung und auf die geschichtliche Realisierung der Offenbarung im Leben Jesu. Der Einzigartigkeit dieser Empfängnis und Geburt entspricht auch die Einzigartigkeit der Beziehung Marias auf Gott. Die jungfräuliche Gottesmutterschaft ist somit die personale Mitte dieser Gottesbeziehung und der Realisierung ihres Lebens.

Die mariologischen Ideen der Kirchenväter bezüglich der Jungfräulichkeit Marias nach der Geburt bildeten sich besonders aus in Verbindung mit dem christlichen Ideal der Ehelosigkeit um des Himmelreiches willen (Mt 19,12) und des evangelischen Rates zu dieser christlichen Lebensform “um der Sache des Herrn willen” (1 Kor 7,25-38).

(Katholische Dogmatik, p. 494; underlining added.)

Müller makes it appear as though the dogma of the perpetual virginity were nothing more than a noble idea the Church Fathers came up with, an inference drawn by them because it seemed fitting to them — rather than a truth revealed by God!

As though the early Christians had said to themselves: “It is fitting that the Mother of God should have been as holy and special as possible because of her unique relationship with God; but since celibacy is the ideal and hence the most fitting, we therefore will express this suitability by saying she was a perpetual virgin.” Such a blasphemous idea subverts and destroys the very concept of dogma and is the exact error Pope St. Pius X condemned in his anti-Modernist syllabus Lamentabili Sane: “The dogmas which the Church professes as revealed are not truths fallen from heaven, but they are a kind of interpretation of religious facts, which the human mind by a laborious effort prepared for itself” (error no. 22; Denz. 2022).

Contrast Müller’s subversive Modernist drivel with what Fr. de Aldama writes concerning the origin of this beautiful article of Faith: “…the origin of this dogma cannot be anything else but a revelation from God. We have presented more than enough arguments in favor of this revelation. But the different stages of its evolution, as presented by the rationalists [=Modernists], are completely groundless” (On the Blessed Virgin Mary, n. 115; underlining added).

As is the case with any dogma, its origin is found in God’s revelation to man, not in “faith-filled reflection” or any other kind of human thought process.

Müller’s False Theology condemned

Prescinding for a moment from the question of heresy, ask yourself: After reading Müller on the dogma of the Perpetual Virginity of the Blessed Mother, is that dogma clearer to you or do you feel like you understand it less? Did Müller explain and clarify the Catholic teaching or did he mystify and obfuscate it?

To ask the question is to answer it, and there is a reason for that. Müller was a student of the infamous “Cardinal” Karl Lehmann (1936-2018), the long-time liberal “bishop” of Mainz, Germany. Lehmann himself was a student of the aforementioned Modernist Rahner, whom Müller clearly admires and likes to quote as a theological authority.

As stated at the outset of this article, Müller’s theology is polluted by the false philosophy of Kant, which Rahner tried to blend with the teaching of St. Thomas Aquinas, yielding an incredibly dangerous system of thought known as “transcendental Thomism”. The conservative Novus Ordo theologian Fr. Georg May hits the nail on the head when he says about Rahner:

The effects of his work have been fatal. He has his considerable share in the self-destruction of the Church. He always talks so long and with such intensity about an object of Faith until he has overcome its previous understanding and has put it in the coffin of its transcendental Procrustean bed.

(Rev. Georg May, 300 Jahre gläubige und ungläubige Theologie[Bobingen: Sarto Verlag, 2017], p. 817; our translation.)

It is not hard to see that Müller’s theology is significantly influenced by the transcendentalism of Rahner, and the fruits are equally devastating: As is evident from the quotes above, once Müller touches dogma, it becomes unrecognizable, and nothing is left but confusion, bewilderment, and nausea. Literally no one will have a better understanding of the Catholic Faith after reading Müller’s “explanations.” With sentences like: “In the hermeneutics of dogma there takes place a spiritual dynamic in the transcendence of the formula concerning the ever-greater intended content the dogma aims at” (Katholische Dogmatik, p. 79), it is clear that Müller’s intent is not to explicate anything, much less to communicate truth. Rather, his intent is to do the very opposite. If this man is a guardian of orthodoxy, what is left for a heretic to do?!

That Catholic dogma is not a hodgepodge of vague and elusive ideas about contextual horizons, transcendental frameworks, and hermeneutical perspectives is easily seen by the fact that prior to Vatican II and the entire New Theology (Nouvelle Theologie) the council is based on, Sacred Theology was quite comprehensible and yet by no means simplistic or shallow. The Neo-Modernists of our day are masters at using gobbledygook to simulate theological profundity.

Some may say that it is not right to accuse Müller of heresy regarding the Perpetual Virginity dogma, on the grounds that he does, after all, believe in some version of it. But this argument is easily answered by pointing out that the Church teaches that it is necessary to believe in dogma precisely as it has been defined by the Church and in no other sense:

For, the doctrine of faith which God revealed has not been handed down as a philosophic invention to the human mind to be perfected, but has been entrusted as a divine deposit to the Spouse of Christ, to be faithfully guarded and infallibly interpreted. Hence, also, that understanding of its sacred dogmas must be perpetually retained, which Holy Mother Church has once declared; and there must never be recession from that meaning under the specious name of a deeper understanding.

(Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution Pastor Aeternus, Chapter 4; Denz. 1800; underlining added.)

Müller’s Modernist theology cannot be excused or defended, as is often done, on the grounds that just as St. Thomas Aquinas drew from the philosophical framework of Aristotle, so the contemporary theologian can use other philosophical systems in service of theological truth. This idea was roundly condemned by Pope Pius XII in 1950:

…[T]hey assert that when Catholic doctrine has been reduced to this condition, a way will be found to satisfy modern needs, that will permit of dogma being expressed also by the concepts of modern philosophy, whether of immanentism or idealism or existentialism or any other system. Some more audacious affirm that this can and must be done, because they hold that the mysteries of faith are never expressed by truly adequate concepts but only by approximate and ever changeable notions, in which the truth is to some extent expressed, but is necessarily distorted. Wherefore they do not consider it absurd, but altogether necessary, that theology should substitute new concepts in place of the old ones in keeping with the various philosophies which in the course of time it uses as its instruments, so that it should give human expression to divine truths in various ways which are even somewhat opposed, but still equivalent, as they say. They add that the history of dogmas consists in the reporting of the various forms in which revealed truth has been clothed, forms that have succeeded one another in accordance with the different teachings and opinions that have arisen over the course of the centuries.

It is evident from what We have already said, that such tentatives not only lead to what they call dogmatic relativism, but that they actually contain it. The contempt of doctrine commonly taught and of the terms in which it is expressed strongly favor it. Everyone is aware that the terminology employed in the schools and even that used by the Teaching Authority of the Church itself is capable of being perfected and polished; and we know also that the Church itself has not always used the same terms in the same way. It is also manifest that the Church cannot be bound to every system of philosophy that has existed for a short space of time. Nevertheless, the things that have been composed through common effort by Catholic teachers over the course of the centuries to bring about some understanding of dogma are certainly not based on any such weak foundation. These things are based on principles and notions deduced from a true knowledge of created things. In the process of deducing, this knowledge, like a star, gave enlightenment to the human mind through the Church. Hence it is not astonishing that some of these notions have not only been used by the Oecumenical Councils, but even sanctioned by them, so that it is wrong to depart from them.

Hence to neglect, or to reject, or to devalue so many and such great resources which have been conceived, expressed and perfected so often by the age-old work of men endowed with no common talent and holiness, working under the vigilant supervision of the holy magisterium and with the light and leadership of the Holy Ghost in order to state the truths of the faith ever more accurately, to do this so that these things may be replaced by conjectural notions and by some formless and unstable tenets of a new philosophy, tenets which, like the flowers of the field, are in existence today and die tomorrow; this is supreme imprudence and something that would make dogma itself a reed shaken by the wind. The contempt for terms and notions habitually used by scholastic theologians leads of itself to the weakening of what they call speculative theology, a discipline which these men consider devoid of true certitude because it is based on theological reasoning.

Unfortunately these advocates of novelty easily pass from despising scholastic theology to the neglect of and even contempt for the Teaching Authority of the Church itself, which gives such authoritative approval to scholastic theology.

(Pope Pius XII, Encyclical Humani Generis, nn. 15-18; underlining added.)

This papal condemnation was published 69 years ago. Today we have the benefit of hindsight to boot: Since the condemnation was effectively rescinded by the Novus Ordo revolution of John XXIII and his successors and thus all the fury of the Nouvelle Theologie was unleashed on the unsuspecting masses, its rotten fruits have been on full display in the theological, liturgical, and spiritual wasteland that is the Vatican II Church. That devastated vineyard, as Dietrich von Hildebrand called it as early as 1973, is the product of the theology of Rahner, Joseph RatzingerYves Congar, and all the other Neo-Modernist theologians influential at Vatican II, among whose intellectual offspring we must number Gerhard Ludwig Müller.

Perhaps the scariest and absurdest part about all of this, however, is that Müller is considered to be a great conservative and ultra-orthodox bulldog, simply because he opposes the sin of adultery and the idea of allowing unrepentant public adulterers to receive the Novus Ordo sacraments. That really says a lot about the state of “Catholicism” in our day.

Towards the end of his celebrated Novus Ordo Manifesto of Faith, which has been widely seen as a swipe at Francis, the heretic Müller declares:

To keep silent about these and the other truths of the Faith and to teach people accordingly is the greatest deception against which the Catechism vigorously warns. It represents the last trial of the Church and leads man to a religious delusion, “the price of their apostasy” (CCC 675); it is the fraud of Antichrist.

At least on that point, we can agree!

 

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Francis-Bergoglio Is Now Accelerating the Number of Auxiliary Newbishops In Order to Pack the College of Newbishops for the Indefinite Future

From: Petrus, the TRADITIO Network’s Roman Correspondent

Newchurch Bishops

There Are Now Twice as Many Newbishops, over 5,000
Than Sat at the Vatican II Anti-council in 1962-1965
Francis-Bergoglio Is Packing the College of Newbishops
With His Protestant-Masonic-Pagan Appointees
So His Successor Couldn’t Do Anything
To Raise Newchurch out of Heresy and Immorality —
Even if He Wanted To!

Francis-Bergoglio is now accelerating his appointment of auxiliary bishops in order to pack the College of Newbishops. In the last fifty days he has appointed or installed nineteen of them. That’s almost one every other day! He is filling Newchurch with colonels as the number of his corporals (his presbyters) continues to decline precipitously. It’s all chiefs and no Indians in the new, new top-heavy Newchurch. Such action is a classic sign of decline and fall in organizations.

Francis-Bergoglio does not just add auxiliaries where one might expect to find them under the last three Newpopes. He has appointed them to Bilbao, Spain; Elblag, Poland; El Alto, Bolivia; Rottenburg-Stuttgart, Germany; Montpelier, France; San Juan de Cuyo, Argentina; Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany; Riga, Lativa (a country having few Newchurchers to begin with); Lingayen-Dagupan, Philippines; Cartagena, Spain; Port Harcourt, Nigeria; and Cuenca, Ecuador.

Anybody can be a Newbishop in Francis-Bergoglio’s corrupt Newchurch. Why be a presbyter when you can be a Newbishop? As auxiliary bishops need to be maintained in order to support their “dignity,” there is pressure to promote auxiliaries to the office of Newdiocesan bishop. Hence Bergoglio is really appointing auxiliaries as a means of controlling the Newchurch hierarchy of the future. He is trying to rule the future of Newchurch to ensure that it continues in its pagan direction. Moreover, should even a Neocon Newchurcher be elected Newpope, he will soon discover that all of his regional managers just happen to be pagan Bergoglians, as a result of which he will not be able to make effective his conservative Protestant, but not traditional Catholic, commands.

Pope St. Pius V would allow auxiliaries only for cardinals and major archbishops where they had been well established. Most countries had none until recently, and even countries like France had them only in three or four major sees. Now every Presbyter Tom, Dick and Harry is a Newbishop Tom, Dick, and Harry!

Newchurch’s False Oecumenism Has Been Thwarted By a Major New Schism within the Eastern Orthodox Church

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Francis-Bergoglio & Bartholomew

Francis-Bergoglio Bows in Obeisance
To the Schismatic “Oecumenical” Patriarch Bartholomew
Bergoglio Has Said that He Doesn’t Like the Papacy
And Wants to Be “Oecumenical” with All the Other Patriarchs
However, the Worst Schism in the Eastern Orthodox Church
Since the Catholic-Orthodox Split of 1054
Has Caused a Shutdown of “Theological Dialogue”
Between the Orthodox and Francis-Bergoglio’s Newchurch

The so-called Oecumenical Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, Bartholomew of Constantinople, has provoked a schism within the Eastern Orthodox Church by recognizing the independent Orthodox Church of the Ukraine in January 2019. The Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, Kirill of Moscow, has excommunicated Bartholomew and his followers because the Russian Orthodox Church considers the Ukraine part of its own territory. This new schism has been described as the most significant fracture since the original break between the Catholics and Orthodox in 1054.

As of May 17, 2019, delegates from the Russian Orthodox Church, which is the largest Orthodox Christian body, have withdrawn from common projects. The schism has caused a shutdown of “theological dialogue” between the Orthodox and Francis-Bergoglio’s Newchurch of the New Order. This dialogue has been working to redefine the Roman papacy so that the Orthodox can accept the pope not as supreme, but as merely a primus inter pares, as Patriarch of Rome, on a level with all the Orthodox Patriarchs. Ex-Newpope Benedict-Ratzinger and current Newpope Francis-Bergoglio have been hot to trot in this heretical direction. [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by Catholic World News.]

True Catholics, Bartholomew is not an “oecumenical” patriarch, recognized by all the other patriarchs. As time has gone along, more and more of the Eastern Orthodox are going into schism from him because the consider him a Leftist. The same is happening with respect to Francis-Bergoglio, whom more and more Catholics are considering a Leftist and a heretic, even calling for his deposition. As these leaders continue to depart from Scripture and Tradition, they are losing more and more of the once faithful, who do not regard them as legitimate.

The Case Against Roncalli

I learn quite a lot thanks to my readers. Each week in the comments section, there are many good discussions. Most are on the same topic as the post, but not always, and that’s fine by me. When I’m challenged on a topic I often re-think my position, to get a better understanding both for my own edification and that I may be of more informative value to my readers. I believe in the axiom,”He who does not understand his opponents’ point of view, doesn’t fully understand his own.” Last week, a comment was made by someone who objected to my designating Roncalli (John XXIII) as a false pope. He had challenged me on this point about a year ago, and I was going to research my position more thoroughly, but alas, life so often gets in the way of our plans.

This time, I started to research the topic and my findings were most fruitful–resulting in this post you’re now reading. Anyone who wishes to read the whole thread between my interlocutor and myself may do so by referring to the comments section of last week’s post. In sum, he said, “Sedevacantists recognize Paul VI onwards as pseudo-popes based on SOLID, IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE. For some reason you’re not applying this standard to Roncalli…Again, I don’t know if Roncalli was an usurper. Neither do you, so perhaps you should pull back on DECLARING him a pseudo-pope, and instead just state that YOU believe he was problematic to the point that YOU have your doubts that he was genuine. ” (Emphasis in the original).

In this post, I will put forth the reasons, proving beyond a reasonable doubt, that Roncalli must be objectively dismissed as a false pope. There’s so much that could be written, but I will confine myself as best as possible to make it terse and get the point across without delving into all aspects of his life. Hence, you will not see, for example, accusations that he was a Freemason addressed. I might touch on such issues in another post. This one will suffice for the stated purpose.

Angelo Roncalli: A Brief Background
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, the man who would convoke the Robber Council Vatican II, was born the fourth of thirteen children in 1881. He was born to a family of sharecroppers who lived in an Italian village. Roncalli studied for the priesthood, and completed his doctorate in Canon Law the same year as his ordination, 1904.  He became Professor of Patristics at the Lateran University in 1924, only to be relieved of his post within months “on suspicion of Modernism.”
In February 1925, the Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Gasparri summoned him to the Vatican and informed him of Pope Pius XI’s decision to appoint him as the Apostolic Visitor to Bulgaria (1925–1935). He was subsequently consecrated a bishop in 1925 by Cardinal Porchelli. On 12 January 1953, he was appointed Patriarch of Venice and raised to the rank of Cardinal-Priest of Santa Prisca by Pope Pius XII. After the death of Pope Pius XII on October 9, 1958, Roncalli was allegedly elected pope on the eleventh ballot occurring on October 28th. He took the regnal name of John XXIII. Interestingly, this was the first time in over 500 years that this name had been chosen; previous popes had avoided its use since the time of Antipope John XXIII during the Great Western Schism several centuries before. Both his name and his “reign” would be an appropriate foreshadowing of the Vatican II sect which he helped to create.
Preliminary Considerations
1. A pope who falls into heresy— as a private individual— automatically loses his papal authority by Divine Law.
 According to Doctor of the Church St. Alphonsus Liguori, “If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate.” (See Verita della Fede, Pt. III, Ch. VIII, 9-10).
According to Wernz-Vidal, “Through notorious and openly divulged heresy, the Roman Pontiff, should he fall into heresy, by that very fact [ipso facto] is deemed to be deprived of the power of jurisdiction even before any declaratory judgement by the Church….A pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the Church.(See Ius Canonicum. Rome: Gregorian [1943] 2:453).
2. A heretic is incapable by Divine Law of attaining the papacy.
 According to theologian Baldii, “Barred as incapable of being validly elected [pope] are the following: women, children who have not reached the age of reason, those suffering from habitual insanity, the unbaptized, heretics and schismatics…” (See Institutiones Iuris Canonici [1921]; Emphasis mine).
According to canonist Coronata, “III. Appointment of the office of the Primacy. 1. What is required by divine law for this appointment: …Also required for validity is that the appointment be of a member of the Church. Heretics and apostates (at least public ones) are therefore excluded.” (Institutiones 1:312; Emphasis mine)
3. If one has a reasonable suspicion regarding the election of a pope, he may be considered as a doubtful pope, and therefore no pope in the practical order.
According to theologian Szal, “Nor is there any schism if one merely transgresses a papal law for the reason that one considers it too difficult, or if one refuses obedience inasmuch as one suspects the person of the pope or the validity of his election, or if one resists him as the civil head of a state.” (See The Communication of Catholics with Schismatics, CUA Press [1948], pg 2; Emphasis mine).
Remember that we need not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt (moral certainty) but SUSPICION. A reasonable suspicion in civil law is seen as more than a guess or hunch but less than probable cause. It is based on “specific and articulable facts,” “taken together with rational inferences from the circumstances.” Hence, if someone were elected pope, and coerced into resigning, he would remain pope. Any subsequent Cardinal “elected” could not attain to the papacy even if not a heretic. Moreover, with the death or true resignation of the man elected pope (at a time subsequent to the invalid election), it would not thereby automatically make the invalidly elected cardinal the Vicar of Christ.
Was Roncalli a Heretic Prior to His Election?
  • In the biography by Lawrence Elliot entitled I Will Be Called John:A Biography of Pope John XXIII,[Reader’s Digest Press, 1973] it is recorded that as early as 1914, Roncalli was accused of Modernism while a teacher at the seminary at Bergamo. Cardinal De Lai, Secretary for the Congregation of Seminaries, formally reprimanded Roncalli, saying: “According to the information that came my way, I knew that you had been a reader of Duchesne [an author of a three volume work placed on the Index of Forbidden Books  for teaching Modernist tenets—Introibo] and other unbridled authors, and that on certain occasions you had shown yourself inclined to that school of thought which tends to empty out the value of tradition and the authority of the past, a dangerous current which leads to fatal consequences.” (pg. 59)
  • For ten years (1905-1915), Roncalli was secretary for Bishop Radini Tedeschi, a Modernist sympathizer. Roncalli describes him thus: “His burning eloquence, his innumerable projects, and his extraordinary personal activity could have given the impression to many, at the beginning, that he had in view the most radical changes and that he was moved by the sole desire to innovate…[Tedeshi] concerned himself less with carrying out reforms than with maintaining the glorious traditions of his diocese and with interpreting them in harmony with new conditions and the new needs of the times.”(See Leroux, John XXIII: Initiator of the Changes, pg. 10) Bp. Tedeschi wanted to “update” traditions by re-interpreting them with the “needs of the times.” Sound familiar?
  • He received the red hat of a cardinal from the hands of French President Vincent Auriol in 1953 at Roncalli’s own insistence. Auriol was a committed Socialist, of whom Roncalli said he was an “honest socialist.” Pope Pius XI had stated, “No one can be, at the same time, a sincere Catholic and a true socialist.”(See Encyclical Quadragesimo Anno [1931], para #120)
  • While working in Bulgaria, Roncalli became well acquainted with Eastern Schismatics. His heretical ecumenism shone through “Catholics and Orthodox are not enemies, but brothers. We have the same faith; we share the same sacraments, and especially the Eucharist. We are divided by some disagreements concerning the divine constitution of the Church of Jesus Christ. The persons who were the cause of these disagreements have been dead for centuries. Let us abandon the old disputes and, each in his own domain, let us work to make our brothers good, by giving them good example. Later on, though traveling along different paths, we shall achieve union among the churches to form together the true and unique Church of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (See Luigi Accattoli, When A Pope Asks Forgiveness, New York: Alba House and Daughters of St. Paul, [1998], pp. 18-19; Emphasis mine.) Do the schismatics share the same faith with the One True Church? Obviously not.
  • According to Renzo Allegri (translated from the original Italian Il Papa che ha cambiato il mondo, Testimonianze sulla vita private di Giovanni XXIII, pg. 66) a Bulgarian journalist named Stefano Karadgiov stated, “I knew Catholic priests who refused to go into an Orthodox Church even as tourists. Bishop Roncalli, on the contrary, always participated in Orthodox functions, arousing astonishment and perplexity in some Catholics. He never missed the great ceremonies which were celebrated in the principle Orthodox church in Sofia. He put himself in a corner and devoutly followed the rites. The Orthodox chants especially pleased him. (Emphasis mine)
  • The import of Roncalli actively participating in false worship cannot be understated. Participating in false religious worship, according to the approved canonists and theologians, is a manifestation of heresy and/or apostasy. According to theologian Merkelbach, external heresy consists not only in what someone says, but also dictis vel factis, that is “signs, deeds, and the omission of deeds.” (Merkelbach, Summa Theologiae Moralis, 1:746; Emphasis mine)
  • Nor is this an isolated report of Roncalli participating in prayer with those outside the Church. According to John Hughes in Pontiffs:Popes Who Shaped History [Our Sunday Visitor Press, 1994], “He [Roncalli] became good friends of the Reverend Austin Oakley, chaplain at the British Embassy and the Archbishop of Canterbury’s personal representative to the Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch. Even more unusual were Roncalli’s visits to Oakley’s chapel, where the two men prayed together.” (Emphasis mine). Furthermore, according to Kerry Walters in John XXIII (A Short Biography) Franciscan Media,[2013], Roncalli once proclaimed from the pulpit that Jesus Christ “died to proclaim universal brotherhood.” (pg. 14)
Did Something Strange Happen at the 1958 Conclave?
 1.  There were several top contenders for the papacy after the death of Pope Pius XII. Fr. DePauw, my spiritual father, made it known to me that his personal friend, Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, who was in charge of the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, was so certain he would be elected, that he had already picked out his regnal name as Pope Pius XIII. Other strong contenders included Cardinals Agagianian (Modernist sympathizer), Lercaro (Modernist sympathizer), and Siri (anti-Communist and anti-Modernist like Ottaviani). The U.S. government was very interested in the election, as the Cold War was in high gear, and they wanted another staunch anti-Communist like Pope Pius XII.
In October of 1958, there were only 55 Cardinals in the world, the lowest number in decades because Pope Pius knew so many bishops were suspect of Modernism. It was the “second wave” of resurgent Modernism. Pope St. Pius X had driven the Modernists underground, but had not extirpated them. So why did Pope Pius XII give the red hat of a Cardinal to Roncalli? Contrary to what many think, the Church doesn’t simply excommunicate clerics on a whim. The fact that they were censured or held suspect of heresy is the Church doing Her job. The hope is to reform those who go astray and bring them back into the fold. Even the great St. Pius X gave the worst Modernists time to reform before excommunication. To be clear, the Church is in no way infallible when it comes to ecclesiastical appointments. Choosing someone as a Cardinal does not relieve their censure or suspicion of heresy automatically.
Pope Pius XII had a back-stabbing Judas as his confessor; Fr. Augustin Bea. Bea was thought to be anti-Modernist, but at Vatican II he worked for the passage of Nostra Aetate, the heretical document on non-Christian religions. He was an ecumenist to the extreme and wanted the Jews “absolved” for their crime of Deicide. Could he have protected Roncalli, having the ear of Pope Pius and convincing him he was “reformed” and/or not electable as pope? This is one of many possibilities, but the crux of the matter is it does nothing to absolve Roncalli of his false teachings and even without ecclesiastical excommunication, he would have been removed from the Church by Divine Law for profession of heresy.
2. Confusing white smoke signals appeared and American intelligence had allegedly found out that Cardinal Siri had been elected pope. Then the smoke was black. White smoke signals mean that a Cardinal had been elected and accepted his election as the new pope. This has lead some to speculate that Siri was elected pope (“Gregory XVII”) and was forced to resign. Therefore Roncalli’s election was null and void. I don’t accept the “Siri Theory” for good reason.

See my post http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2015/02/one-question-siri-cant-answer.html for my thoughts on the “Siri Theory.” Is it possible some other Cardinal was elected, forced to resign (which made Roncalli’s election null and void), and then lost office by going along with the Modernists? It’s a possibility. Lest anyone say there is no evidence of seriously confusing smoke, according to Kirk Clinger, “The partly white, partly dark smoke confused even the Vatican radio announcers. They had to apologize frequently for their error. The column of smoke which rose from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel was first whitish, then definitely white, and only later definitely black.” (See A Pope Laughs: Stories of John XXIII,Holt, Rinehard, and Winston[1964], pg. 43)

3. The most convincing report I heard was that both Cardinals Ottaviani and Siri were unable to muster the two-thirds plus one vote to be elected. As a result, a group of “moderates” convinced most Cardinals to give their votes to Roncalli as a “transitional” pope. He was 77 years old, and (so the reasoning went) wouldn’t do much. Could there have been threats to a Cardinal that got elected and he was forced to resign? At least two Cardinals present made disparaging statements about what transpired at that conclave, which is highly suggestive that there was something seriously wrong. They were Cardinals Ottaviani and Spellman.
4. Does this give us a reasonable suspicion, such that we may doubt Roncalli’s election? Reasonable suspicion is a low standard of evidence, so I’d say definitely so. However, there is more than ample proof Roncalli was a heretic prior to his election and therefore could not attain to the papacy. Finally, let’s not forget that a cause can be discerned by examining the effects. For example, the intelligent design of the universe points to a Creator. Likewise, if the man who came out of the conclave did what a true pope would not (indeed could not) do, we can safely say he wasn’t elected pope.
5. Roncalli, as “pope” rehabilitated every major heretic that had been censured under Pope Pius XII and had them as approved periti (theological experts) at Vatican II. These heretics included the likes of Congar, de Lubac, and Hans Kung, among many others, none of whom were required to abjure any errors. Roncalli promoted ecumenism. He ordered the words removed from the prayer of Consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus : “Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism.” He changed the Good Friday prayers so as to remove the phrase “perfidious (i.e., faithless) Jews.” He modernized the Mass, Breviary, and Calendar. He was friends with Socialists, Communists, and Freemasons, none of whom he sought to convert. Are these the actions of a true Vicar of Christ?
Pacem In Terris: Heresy On Earth
The death-knell for those who wish to consider Roncalli pope lies in the fact that he professed heresy in his encyclical Pacem In Terris, published April 11, 1963. This section of my post is taken from the work of Mr. John Lane called John XXIII and Pacem in Terris. I give full credit to Mr. Lane for his incredible research  and incisive analysis. I have condensed the pertinent parts of his article in this section and included some of my comments and research, which I mixed in.—Introibo
The encyclical Pacem in Terris, was about “establishing universal peace in truth, justice, charity, and liberty,” and in addition to the Church, it was addressed “to all men of good will.” The heretical proposition is the opening sentence of paragraph #14. The official Latin version, published in the Acta Apostolicae Sedis (“AAS” –Acts of the Apostolic See), No. 55, 257-304 is as follows:

In hominis juribus hoc quoque numerandum est, ut et Deum, ad rectum conscientiae suae normam, venerari possit, et religionem privatim et publice profiteri. 

In English it means, “We must include among the rights of man that he should be able to worship God according to the rightful prompting of his conscience and to profess his religion privately and publicly.”
Those who defend Roncalli will point out (correctly) that the Church teaches humans have the right to profess and practice only the Catholic religion which is the One True Church, outside of which no one is saved. Error has no rights. There is nothing wrong with this statement in Pacem (they contend) because the word rightful modifies the “prompting of his conscience” such that it implies that one is not simply entitled to follow his conscience in the worship of God unless his conscience is rightful (i.e., in accordance with the One True Church). What no Catholic can declare is that each person should be able “to profess his religion privately and publicly.” This implies (as we shall see) that one can profess any religion, be it the True Religion or any of the myriad false religions, both privately and in public; which idea is heretical and condemned by the Church.

Here’s where it gets interesting. The possessive adjective “his” does not appear in the official Latin text published in the AAS. However, its interpolation by translators (including the official English text available on the Modernist Vatican’s website) is by no means unjustified for two reasons:

(a) Latin very rarely includes such adjectives, frequently showing them to be  understood from the context.
(b) Abundant evidence shows that John XXIII’s true meaning is represented by the inclusion of “his”–which evidence will be examined.

If you read the sentence without the word “his” it admits of an orthodox interpretation: i.e., people have the right to profess religion publicly and privately provided it’s the Catholic religion. Nevertheless, we cannot omit that word without altering the intended sense of the encyclical; a sense that is unabashedly heretical. Let no one protest that this is an exercise in mere semantics. The semi-Arian heretics, under pressure from the Emperor, were prepared to submit to every syllable of the Nicene Creed except they rejected the statement that Our Lord was consubstantial (homo-ousion) with the Father, but He was merely (homoi-ousion) of like substance, not the same substance. One letter marked the all important line between Catholic doctrine and heresy.

It is beyond dispute that the meaning Roncalli wished to convey, and to which he consciously lent his (alleged) “authority,” was that each person has the right to profess his religion—whatever that religion may be–both privately and publicly. Here is the evidence:

1. The encyclical was not, as traditionally done, addressed only to the members of the Roman Catholic Church, but to “all men of good will.” If it was only addressed to Catholics, one could argue that they would know that “his” religion is the Catholic religion, because only the Truth may be openly professed and preached. After all, he would then only have Catholics as his intended audience. It is completely unreasonable to expect Jews, Mohammedans, Protestants, and Eastern Schismatics (among other non-Catholics) to obtain that understanding from the context. The only reasonable conclusion at which they would arrive is that the encyclical guarantees every single one of them the objective moral right to practice and professhis particular false religion in public.

2. The 32nd edition of Denzinger’s Enchiridion Symbolorum [The Enchiridion is a compendium of all the basic texts on Catholic dogma and morality since the Apostolic Age. Commissioned by Pope Pius IX, it has been in use since 1854, and has been regularly updated since] was edited by Fr. Schonmetzer and has the offending sentence tagged with a footnote referencing the Masonic United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) article 18:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

This passage is irreconcilable with Catholic doctrine, yet it is linked to the very sentence that would make a reader believe that everyone is free to express his religion in public, no matter if it is the true religion or not. It would suggest that Roncalli was conscious of that portion of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as he penned Pacem in Terris. If this does not contradict Catholic teaching, nothing does.

As Pope Gregory XVI taught: “Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care…This shameful font of indifferentism gives rise to that absurd and erroneous proposition which claims that liberty of conscience must be maintained for everyone. It spreads ruin in sacred and civil affairs, though some repeat over and over again with the greatest impudence that some advantage accrues to religion from it.” (See Mirari Vos [1832], para. #13 and 14).

The defenders of Roncalli will protest that there is a “lack of evidence” that Roncalli authorized the footnote; but such objection fails miserably. The authors of the Enchiridion are selected precisely to ensure that their references and explanations will meet with official approval of the Holy See, and any remark misrepresenting the mind of same would meet with a public rebuke and a retraction demanded by Rome, which was far from the case. Moreover, the involvement of the editors of the 32nd edition is more demonstrable than in any prior edition. It was the first time that the passage of Pope Pius IX’s condemnation of religious liberty was omitted.  The startling omission is explicable only on the basis that it was intended to conceal the explicit contradiction between Pacem in Terris and Quanta Cura. 

This passage was omitted: From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our Predecessor, Gregory XVI, an “insanity” viz., that “liberty of conscience and worship is each man’s personal right, which ought to be legally proclaimed and asserted in every rightly constituted society; and that a right resides in the citizens to an absolute liberty, which should be restrained by no authority whether ecclesiastical or civil, whereby they may be able openly and publicly to manifest and declare any of their ideas whatever, either by word of mouth, by the press, or in any other way.” But, while they rashly affirm this, they do not think and consider that they are preaching “liberty of perdition;” and that “if human arguments are always allowed free room for discussion, there will never be wanting men who will dare to resist truth, and to trust in the flowing speech of human wisdom; whereas we know, from the very teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ, how carefully Christian faith and wisdom should avoid this most injurious babbling.” (See Quanta Cura [1864], para. #3).

Clearly, it cannot be reasonably maintained that those who took such great care to arrange the suppression of the “offending” part of Quanta Cura were not also responsible for the footnote to Pacem in Terris which concerned the same subject.

3. That fact that the sentence from Pacem in Terris must be understood in connection with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is confirmed by the fact that in Pacem itself, the Masonic United Nations and its Declaration are commended and praised in paragraphs #142, 143, and 144. Roncalli said of the Declaration “It is a solemn recognition of the personal dignity of every human being; an assertion of everyone’s right to be free to seek out the truth, to follow moral principles, discharge the duties imposed by justice, and lead a fully human life. It also recognized other rights connected with these.” (para. #144; Emphasis mine). An encyclical is carefully read over by the Pontiff before signing and promulgating it. Moreover, high ranking theologians craft it at the direction of the pope. Each word is carefully chosen. If these “other rights” written in the Declaration did not include the infamous “right” to religious liberty, is it not obvious this would have been made clear?

4. The encyclical was roundly praised by the Masonic lodges and the secular media both of which promote religious Indifferentism and religious liberty through supporting separation of Church and State.

5. The Church cannot (and does not) teach ambiguously in expressing theological truths. Any deliberate ambiguity must be interpreted against the orthodoxy of the one teaching ambiguously. Propositions that are ambiguous or admit of interpretations that are either orthodox or heterodox are deemed “heretical by defect.” This is also the case with propositions that are true, but are calculated to omit pertinent truths or terms they ought to include. The following proposition of the Jansenist Pseudo-Synod of Pistoia was condemned:
“After the consecration, Christ is truly, really and substantially present beneath the appearances (of bread and wine), and the whole substance of bread and wine has ceased to exist, leaving only the appearances.”

In 1794, Pope Pius VI condemned that proposition in the Apostolic Constitution Auctorem Fidei because “it entirely omits to make any mention of transubstantiation or the conversion of the entire substance of the bread into the Body, and the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, which the Council of Trent defined as an article of Faith…insofar as, through an unauthorized and suspicious omission of this kind, attention is drawn away both from an article of Faith and from a word consecrated by the Church to safeguard the profession of that article against heresies, and tends, therefore, to result in its being forgotten as if it were merely a scholastic question.”

Summation: It is impossible to excuse Roncalli (John XXIII) from the charge of heresy by arguing that this sentence can admit of an orthodox interpretation, because it does not. Even if, ad arguendo, it could so admit of an orthodox interpretation, Roncalli would still be guilty of heresy by defect because it has been shown that the obvious sense of the sentence, taken in both text and context, is incontrovertibly heretical.

Conclusion
What, then, are the practical and objective conclusions we can deduce from the so-called pontificate of “Good Pope John”?
  • He was influenced and kept friends with Modernists, Masons, Socialists and other sworn enemies of the Church from his earliest days in the priesthood
  • He was removed from his teaching post on suspicion of heresy (Modernism)
  • He worshiped and prayed with heretics and schismatics
  • He made an overtly heretical statement regarding Catholics and Eastern Schismatics having the “same faith”
  • The conclave of 1958 was surrounded by suspicious activity and lead many to believe that someone else had been elected pope prior to Roncalli
  • After his “election” Roncalli rehabilitated all the living censured theologians under Pope Pius XII and had them actively serve as theological experts during Vatican II
  • Roncalli taught the heresy of religious liberty in Pacem in Terris; he paved the way for its adoption at Vatican II in the heretical document Dignitatis Humanae

Therefore,

1. It is morally certain that Roncalli was not pope since at least the promulgation of the heretical encyclical Pacem in Terris of April 11, 1963. A true pope cannot teach heresy.
2. Was Roncalli “pope” from October of 1958 until April 11, 1963? In a word: No. We know a cause by the effect it produces. If you see someone who’s sick, you know it’s caused by an illness, even if you can’t diagnose exactly what illness it is. Pope’s do not rehabilitate heretics, promote ecumenism and teach heresy. It is highly more probable than not that Roncalli was a heretic at the time he entered the conclave and never attained to the papacy in the first place. It is also possible (but not likely) that someone else was elected pope and resigned under duress, making Roncalli’s subsequent “election” invalid. There’s more than sufficient evidence prior to the promulgation of Pacem in Terris that we can suspect the validity of his election (due to heresy, election of another, or both) to treat him as a dubious pope –which is no pope in the practical order.
I could write dozens of posts on “Evil Pseudo-Pope John.” However, I hope this one will be sufficient to put to rest the arguments of those who are “agnostic” about his “papacy” and think he might have been pope. Finally, for those who have even the slightest qualm of conscience or scintilla of doubt remaining, let me add that Bergoglio “canonized” him a “saint.” The same Argentinian apostate who gave us “St.” John Paul the Great Apostate and “St” Paul VI, gave us “St” John XXIII. If that’s not enough to make you realize the destruction he caused, and for which the Vatican II sect praises him, no amount of information can wake you from your denial.

2019 Statistics Show Newchurch Sinking Rapidly in the U.S. Novus Ordo Mess Attendance and Fake Sacraments Are Down by a Half to Two-thirds

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Newchurch Sinks

New 2019 Statistics from Newchurch Itself
Show that Its Mess and “Sacraments” Are Being Abandoned
By a Half to Two-Thirds
It Has Taken Fifty Years (1969-2019), but Now the Heretical Newpopes
Paul VI-Montini, JPII-Wojtyla, Benedict-Ratzinger, and Francis-Bergoglio
Who Swore Allegiance to the Blasphemous Vatican II Anti-council
Are Seeing Their Fake Newchurch Sect Crashing and Burning

2019 is the fiftieth anniversary of the full-blown, Protestant-Masonic-Pagan, invalid “New Mess,” which was generated from the Vatican II Anti-council (1962-1965) and was fabricated principally by the Chief Architect of the New Liturgy, the Freemason presbyter Hannibal Bugnini. Here are the statistics, just released for the Unioted States by the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate, seated at Newchurch’s own George Washington University in Washington, D.C.:


                                   1970          2018          Percentage
Infant "Initiations"               1,089,154     615,119       Down 43.5
Adult "Initiations"                84,534        39,660        Down 53.1
Weddings                           426,309       143,082       Down 66.4
Ordinations                        805           518           Down 35.7
Presbyters                         59,192        36,580        Down 61.8
Sisters                            160,931       44,117        Down 72.6
Percentage Attending Mess Weekly   54.9          21.1          Down 61.6

Even at that, Newchurch’s statistics are known to be notoriously “cooked.” For example, estimates of New Mess attendance are generally found by non-Newchurch sources to be closer to 10 per cent, half of what is reported by biased Newchurch sources.

It is clear that hatred of the “New Mess” is growing and that Newchurchers are simply refusing to go. Unfortunately, Newchurch and its heretical Newpopes Paul VI-Montini, JPII-Wojtyla, Benedict-Ratzinger, and Francis-Bergoglio have already so poisoned the minds of Newchurchers against the true Mass that most Newchurchers will simply drop out rather than return to the true Mass, the Traditional Latin Mass that is offered by bishops and priests independent of the Newchurch of the New Order.

In addition, Newchurch has sold out Catholic doctrine and morals, that is to say, Christ’s doctrine to appeal to “modernity,” just as many mainline (Leftist) Protestant denominations have, who approve of homosexuality, divorce, the oecumenical heresy (“we all worship the same god”; “all religions are equally true”), etc. As a result, both Newchurch and mainline Protestantism are sinking rapidly. Yet Christ Himself taught the truth regardless of how many people turned their back on his teaching. He did not water down his teaching, for example, on the Holy Eucharist. The Gospels tell us: “After this [teaching on the Holy Eucharist], many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him” (John 6:67).

True Catholics, criminals often think that they can “get away” with their crimes. In a minority of cases, some do escape justice in this world and have to face a worse judgment in the next. But in the majority of cases, criminals pay the price in this life. Thus is the case with the heretical Newpopes Paul VI-Montini, JPII-Wojtyla, Benedict-Ratzinger, and Francis-Bergoglio, who swore allegiance to the blasphemous Vatican II Anti-council. It has taken fifty years, but now they are feeling the judgment of God in this world against their fake Newchurch of the New Order, with its fake Mess, sacraments, doctrine, and morals.

New Study Shows that German Newchurch Will Be Cut in Half in 30 Years Germany Is One of Many Countries Hit Hard by Newchurch’s Paedophile Holocaust

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Homosexual Newchurch

Newchurch’s Desperate Efforts
To Save Its Precipitously-declining Membership
By Homosexualizing Its Churches Has Failed Badly
Now a German University Study Has Shown
That Newchurch Will Be Cut in Half in Less than a Generation
Newchurch Is Now Paying a High Price Indeed
For Its Sacrileges, Heresies, and Immoral Crimes: Its Own Demise
Nevertheless, Francis-Bergoglio Still Can’t See the Handwriting on the Wall
He Has Entered into a Blasphemous Covenant with the Mohammedans
Saying that Islam and Newchurch Are Essentially the Same Religion

A new study by the University of Freiburg shows that the German Newchurchers will be cut in half by 2060. The researchers reached this conclusion from indicators that are also shared by Newchurch in many other countries:

  1. the dwindling number of Baptisms, which since 1970 have been called mere “Initiations” in Newchurch
  2. the departure of numerous German Newchurchers from formal religious enrollment
  3. the declining birthrate because of abortion and rampant artificial contraception
  4. the precipitous decrease in those who pay the Church tax (kirkensteuer)

One Newchurch bishop predicted: “At the latest in ten years, the church tax receipts will collapse.” [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the Catholic News Agency.]

True Catholics, Newchurch is now paying a high price indeed for its sacrileges, heresies, and immoral crimes: its own demise. Nevertheless, Francis-Bergoglio still can’t see the handwriting on the wall. He has entered into a blasphemous covenant with the Mohammedans saying Islam and Newchurch are essentially the same religion: they worship the same god, and all religious are equal in the heretical Newchurch of the New Order. The sooner Newchurch gets divine justice and collapses, the sooner true Catholics — traditional Catholics — can start the work of rebuilding the Catholic Church from the ground up on the foundation of Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

Francis-Bergoglio Is Not Giving up on the Installation of Deaconesses Even though His Own Commission Found No Historical Justification for Them

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Deaconess

Even Francis-Bergoglio’s Own Bisexual Commission
Cannot Prove that Deaconesses
Were Ever Ordained in the Early Church
But That Fact Doesn’t Stop the Marxist/Modernist Newpope
He Has Not Given up His Desire to Install Them
If He Wants Something for His Marxist/Modernist Purposes
He Will Override the Facts and even History

On May 7, 2019, Francis-Bergoglio announced that although his Commission of six men and six women cannot find historical justification for the installation (Newchurch has not validly ordained Newclergy since adoption of the Protestantized New Ordinal of 1968) of deaconesses, he has not given up his desire to install them. Even he had to admit: “Fundamentally, there is no certainty that it was an ordination with the same form, in the same purpose as male ordination.”

A 2002 document published by Newchurch’s International Theological Commission concluded that deaconesses in the early Church had not been equivalent to male deacons. They had “no liturgical function,” nor a sacramental one. There were in the early church unordained female assistants who, out of modesty, assisted with the dunking of women in full-immersion baptism. These women lived in a manner similar to nuns. [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the National Catholic Register.]

True Catholics, here goes Newchurch again, round and round. Francis-Bergoglio cannot accept the historical evidence in front of his own face. If he wants something for his Marxist/Modernist purposes, he will override the facts and even history. This is how Marxist/Modernists, who rule the Newpapacy and the Newchurch, operate: by deception and fraud.

Canadian Newbishops Withdraw Support from Its Pro-life Organization Whose Leader Courageously Signed Letter with 2,000 to Depose Francis-Bergoglio as a “Heretic”

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Canadian Newbishops with Imams

Newchurch Canadian Bishops
Here Shown in a Joint Meeting with Infidel Imams
Are Turning against the Pro-life Movement in Canada
Because the Leader of the Pro-life Movement Signed a Letter
With 2,000 Other Newchurch Leaders
To Depose Francis-Bergoglio as a “Heretic”
Since the Renaissance No Purported Pope
Has Been Called a Heretic
By So Many Church Leaders

Now we begin to see how Newchurch bishops are not really “pro life” at all. When the leader of Quebec’s leading pro-life organization signed a petition, along with 2,000 other Newchurch theologians, academics, and leaders to call for the deposition Francis-Bergoglio as a “heretic” for his anti-Catholic positions on doctrinal and moral issues. As a result, the President of the Assembly of Catholic [Sic] Bishops of Quebec, Noel Simard, stood up for the heretic Newpope against the “pro life” movement and withdrew funds from the Canadian pro-life organization. Francis-Bergoglio has, among other anti-Catholic teachings, watered down Newchurch’s support for the movement against abortion and the right to life for all human beings.

Georges Buschemi, who was the chief organizer of the 2019 National March for Life in Ottawa. is courageously standing up for Catholic doctrine and morals against the Marxist/Modernist heretic Francis-Bergoglio. Buschemi said that he knew that signing the letter with 2,000 other Newchurch leaders would make him the target of the (invalid) Newchurch bishops, but went on: “The resolution of the crisis in the [New]church is more important. The [New]church is responsible for teaching true faith and true morality to every human person. When its leader fails, the whole planet suffers, not only Catholics or pro-life.” [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the National Catholic Register.]

True Catholics, Pro-life Leader Georges Buscemi’s courageous stance puts the priority where it should be: on Catholic doctrine and morality, not Newchurch ecclesiastical politics in the Newroman swamp. His stance, along with 2,000 other Newchurch leaders, shows just how far Francis-Bergoglio’s regime has fallen and just how much his disrepute for immorality has increased. Since the Renaissance no purported pope has been called a heretic by so many Church leaders. Naturally, the Newchurch bishops, who have themselves been the leaders in the immoral cover-up of Newchurch’s Great Sex & Embezzlement Holocaust, would squirm when their potentate Bergoglio is called out publicly for the heretic that he is. Newchurch fits exactly Our Lord’s prophecy in His Parable of the House Built on Sand: “And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell, and great was the fall thereof” (Matthew 7:27/DRV).

The Anti-Father

If you ever heard the Vatican II sect “priests” talk about the Gospel in their “homily,” you would get the idea that the books of the Bible are more or less a bunch of nice stories that teach us to be kind because “God is good all the time.” They denigrate “born again” Protestant ministers, not for their many and genuine heresies, but because they “falsely” believe the Bible to be the inspired and infallible Word of God. At the same time, (so we are told), in the days pre-Vatican II, Catholics were “not allowed” or “discouraged” from reading the Bible on their own. In this way, they were prevented from seeing that the Bible is a nice collection of myths, stories, and some truths to encourage us to believe in a nice God and His Son Who was “the greatest man (sic) on Earth.”

If you’re wondering how we got to this sorry state of affairs, modern Biblical scholarship was infected by the Modernists in the wake of Vatican II. The seeds were sowed in the late 19th century, and one man in particular did more damage than all the others. Alfred Firmin Loisy was born in France on February 28, 1857, and died June 1, 1940. He was ordained a priest on June 29, 1879, but was off-course in his spiritual life. He obtained his theology degree in 1890. Loisy claimed in his journal that he had a “fever for glory” and wanted to become a “Father of the Church.”(See McKee, The Enemy Within the Gate [1974], pg. 23). His arrogance and diabolical hatred for all things traditional Catholic, led to him becoming one of the “Fathers of Modernism” and of the Vatican II sect, which his influence helped to spawn in 1964.

As we shall see in this post, Loisy was particularly critical of the Bible, and is even called in some circles the “Founder of Biblical Modernism in the Catholic (sic) Church.” It is because of him, and his intellectual/spiritual disciples, that the true teaching regarding the Bible was discarded.

Ridding The Bible of “Myths”
Loisy argued against the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch, the reliability of Genesis’ creation accounts, and against the historical dependability of the Bible in general. As a result, he was removed from his teaching position at the Institut Catholique.  After his dismissal, he was made a chaplain at a girls school at Neuilly. In 1900 Loisy became lecturer at Ecole des hautes Estudes at the Sorbonne, where he was able to continue spreading his ideas as a Modernist. Pope Leo XIII issued the encyclical Providentissimus Deus in 1893 condemning the errors of Modernist Biblical criticism.
 Undaunted, Loisy continued to write heretical books, using Modernist Biblical criticism. In particular, Loisy:
  • Denied the authority of God, the Scriptures, and Tradition
  • Denied the Divinity of Jesus Christ
  • Denied Christ was omniscient
  • Denied the Redemptive death and Resurrection of Christ
  • Denied the Virgin Birth
  • Denied Transubstantiation
  • Denied the Divine Institution of both the papacy and the Church

In December of 1903, Loisy’s books were placed on the Index of Prohibited Books by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office with the full approval of Pope St. Pius X, who had just been elected pope in August of that year. On January 24, 1904, Loisy wrote to the saintly and thoroughly Anti-Modernist Raphael Cardinal Merry del Val. The Cardinal was the right hand man of Pope St. Pius X, and with good reason. Cardinal Merry del Val was everything Loisy was not: humble and pious. Moreover, the Cardinal was an intellectual giant, having not only a Doctorate in Sacred Theology as an approved theologian, but he also earned a doctorate in philosophy and licentiate in Canon Law. He did not fancy himself a “Father of the Church” but actually penned a “Litany of Humility.” Some ascribed the authorship to another, but the Cardinal recited it daily, nevertheless.  His cause for sainthood was introduced in 1953, and in my opinion, had Vatican II not happened, he would have an “St.” before his name.

Loisy told the Cardinal in his letter that “I accept all the dogmas of the Church.” This was an unabashed lie, because at the same time in his journal he wrote, “I have not been Catholic in the official sense of the word for a long time…Roman Catholicism as such is destined to perish, and it will deserve no regrets.” (Ibid, pgs. 32-33). The wise Cardinal was not satisfied, as he knew all too well how Modernists lie and conceal their true intentions by giving different meanings to dogmas. A Modernist could say, “I believe in the Resurrection of Christ (insofar as he lives on; not materially, but in the minds of His followers).” The part in parentheses is never said aloud. Cardinal Merry del Val continued to advise Pope St. Pius that more stringent measures needed to be taken.
Finally, in 1907, His Holiness Pope St. Pius X condemned 65 Modernist propositions in his famous declaration Lamentabili Sane. Of those 65 propositions, fifty (50) were taken from the works of Loisy. Enraged, Loisy realized that there was no reconciliation possible with the Church and his heresy. He now made plain what he had heretofore keep close to his vest when he wrote publicly, “Christ has even less importance in my religion than he does in that of the liberal Protestants: for I attach little importance to the revelation of God the Father for which they honor Jesus. If I am anything in religion, it is more pantheist-positivist-humanitarian than Christian.” On March 7, 1908, Loisy was solemnly excommunicated by Pope St. Pius X. He became a college professor, forsaking his clerical status, and died unrepentant in 1940.
The Condemnations of Lamentabili Sane
Here are just some of the propositions (all solemnly condemned by St. Pius X) which Loisy propagated in regard to Holy Scripture:
4. Even by dogmatic definitions the Church’s Magisterium cannot determine the genuine sense of the Sacred Scriptures.
7. In proscribing errors, the Church cannot demand any internal assent from the faithful by which the judgments She issues are to be embraced.

9. They display excessive simplicity or ignorance who believe that God is really the author of the Sacred Scriptures.

10. The inspiration of the books of the Old Testament consists in this: The Israelite writers handed down religious doctrines under a peculiar aspect which was either little or not at all known to the Gentiles.

11. Divine inspiration does not extend to all of Sacred Scriptures so that it renders its parts, each and every one, free from every error.

12. If he wishes to apply himself usefully to Biblical studies, the exegete[interpreter of the Bible] must first put aside all preconceived opinions about the supernatural origin of Sacred Scripture and interpret it the same as any other merely human document.

In Defense of God’s Word
The attacks of Loisy and the Modernists on Sacred Scripture lack merit, even apart from a theological perspective. The following is taken and condensed from the work of A. Anderson, a lawyer who attacked the alleged logical basis of the Modernists’ faulty exegesis. Anderson shows that the Modernists cannot maintain their position in regard to Sacred Scripture being “unreliable”— even in the purposeful absence of theological proof. What makes his work, entitled A Lawyer Among the Theologians, (Hodder and Stoughton, [1967]) truly masterful, is how he demonstrates that the Gospels are historically reliable while fighting Modernists “on their own turf” by using the best secular evidence, and not invoking any theological authority.
Reasons for Accepting the Gospels as Historically Reliable
As a form of literature, the Gospels are unique, for they were written by believers to confirm the readers in their faith or to bring to faith those who did not yet believe. Since the Christian faith is rooted in history, the Evangelists were concerned in reporting what actually happened, and therefore the religious aim of the Gospels is not a valid reason for rejecting them as historically inaccurate or unreliable.
1. Two Evangelists explicitly claim they are reporting historical facts. St. Luke begins his Gospel by telling us that he has been at pains to gather reliable information about the events he plans to chronicle in order that Theophilus, for whom he is directly writing, may rest assured that his faith in Christ is based on well-established fact. The order in which he recounts the facts is not strictly chronological, but in its main outlines Luke’s account of the public ministry of Jesus tallies with those of Sts. Matthew and Mark. St. John also presents his Gospel as a record of facts which serve as a warranty for faith in Christ.
2. The Evangelists, even if they wanted to, could not have made up the story, for the central figure is so tremendous and the story of His life so unique as to be beyond the power of human imagination. Even John Stuart Mill, a rationalist philosopher who rejected the supernatural said, “Who among His disciples or among the proselytes was capable of inventing the sayings of Jesus or or of imagining the life and character revealed in the Gospels? Certainly not the simple fishermen of Galilee; certainly not St. Paul, whose character and idiosyncrasies were of a totally different sort; still less the early Christian writers.”
3. The Gospels had to pass the scrutiny of men who had witnessed the events that were recorded, and were hostile to the Christian claims.
4. Historical and archaeological research have revealed that the Gospels depict with striking exactitude the very complex social and political order that prevailed in the Middle East in the third decade of the first century, an order that was completely destroyed in 70 A.D. The Evangelists’ reliability in recording these items creates a presumption that their testimony on other matters is true as well.
5. A crucified Messiah was completely out of step with regard to Jewish expectations. The Jews were expecting a Messiah, but not a suffering Messiah, and still less an Incarnate Deity. Even if they thought the Messiah was to be the Son of God, even the most learned rabbis of the day would NOT think Him to be born in a stable, spend thirty years in obscurity as a carpenter, and end His life on the ignominious death of the cross. Christ therefore was, in the words of St. Paul, a “stumbling block” on the path to faith. (1 Corinthians 1:23).
There is non-Christian testimony from pagan historians which corroborate the unique life of Jesus Christ. These writers include:
  • Flavius Josephus
  • Tacitus
  • Suetonius
  • Pliny the Younger
Conclusion
The Modernists have come to destroy all that is good, beautiful, and true. The would be “Church Father” Alfred Loisy was the quintessential Modernist, seeking to destroy the Church and replace Her with a One World Religion. He began attacking the reliability of the Bible, and the Vatican II sect continues with the de-supernaturalized “social Gospel” which reduces the Faith to little more than worldly concerns and advocates for Socialism/Communism. One of Loisy’s most noted sayings was, “Jesus came proclaiming the Kingdom, and what arrived was the Church,” as if Our Lord never intended to found a Church. Loisy admitted to being a “pantheist-positivist-humanitarian” –a man devoid of the Faith.
Bergoglio and his false hierarchy are Loisy’s successors in heresy and apostasy. They proclaim a mythical Jesus (“There is no Catholic God”) Who founded no Church (“proselytism is solemn nonsense”) and lets you do what you want (“Who am I to judge?”). The only thing our SSPX friends need to recognize is that the Vatican II sect is not the Roman Catholic Church, and then resist the sect by admitting sedevacantism— thereby joining the fight against it.

41 comments:

  1. Admit sedevacantism? The only thing harder than admitting you were wrong is admitting you were fooled. SSPX and the other cottage industry resisters have painted themselves so far in the corner that they have become blinded by their own spin.

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  2. Tom,
    True. I guess miracles do happen? At least we can hope so—for all our sakes!

    —-Introibo

  3. Thank you, Introibo, for displaying the correct attitude one should take towards the SSPX.

    If one believes that all of the SSPX clergy are engaged in a false opposition designed to ensnare souls, one probably spends a good deal of time slapping their own head (ala Mel Gibson in “Conspiracy Theory”) while breathlessly ranting about various conspiratorial organizations. *Wild look in the eyes is optional.

    If one thinks that the SSPX has been somewhat infiltrated by the enemy, all the MORE reason to fervently pray for all of the good and holy SSPX clergy that aren’t traitors to our Lord.

    As sedevacantists we believe that they’ve concluded wrongly. This doesn’t mean we’re better or are “the chosen ones.” Far from it. Many of us are only right due to favorable circumstances.

    Did St. Monica revile and disown Augustine? It is incumbent on us to pray fervently each day for tne intention that the SSPX and their adherents see the truth. We also have a moral responsibility to see the very best in others until that is no longer possible. So from a starting point of the SSPX being horribly wrong on serious religious matters, tbey are to be pitied rather than be excoriated. Prayed for rather than uncharitably criticized.

    We’re all in this together. We all ultimately want the same thing – Heaven.

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  4. @anon7:28
    Well stated my friend!

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  5. Is their any difference between the SSPX and the Indult?

  6. The title of this article “The Anti-Father” reminds me of a statement by Frankie the Fake stating that “God is Father and also Mother”. Leave it to Frankie the Fake to spread confusion and modernism. Since Frankie is into and a practicing New Ager himself, perhaps he is telling many of the feminists and New Agers that it is ok to pray to God as “Goddess”? I also wonder if he will change the Our Father to “Our Father and Mother” in the Vatican II Sect?
    See link below:

    https://www.lastampa.it/2019/01/16/vaticaninsider/the-pope-god-is-father-and-also-mother-and-always-loves-even-criminals-TDZFfyjpVfPqOD6mpRYprJ/pagina.html

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  7. Joann,
    No doubt “feminist theology” has taken hold since Vatican II. Bergoglio will lead people into EVERY EVIL. There was a “priest” in Boston when Ratzinger was “pope.” He was baptizing babies “In the name of God the Creator, and of Jesus the Christ, and of the Holy Spirit.”

    Some parents questioned its validity, and much to that “priest’s “ chagrin, even the Modernist Vatican declared them null and void and to be unconditionally repeated!!

    Be assured that under Francis, he wouldn’t perturb an invalid Sacrament!

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  8. Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. Matthew 7: 21-23

    I hate to say it, but I bet Alfred Firmin Loisy wishes he believed in the bible and in the Church now.

    I’m surprised the Novus ordo hasn’t talked about making him a “Doctor of the Church” like some have in regards to Teilhard de Chardin.

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  9. @anon5:39
    Oh, give them time! Teilhard shall be their “doctor,” Loisy shall be their “father,” and since its inception the V2 sect has had Satan for their lord and master.

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  10. The seeds of Modernism were sown in the 17th century, when many theologians downplayed the condemnation of Galileo by the Holy See, insolently maintaining that the last word had not been had not yet been spoken on the subject of heliocentrism. By the second half of the 19th century, not a single theologian held to the biblical view of cosmology, and all without exception accepted heliocentrism. By the mid-20th century, scarcely a single one held to the Genesis account of creation, and evolutionism was all the rage in theological circles. Small wonder, then, that the Modernists were able to just waltz in and take the fortress unopposed. For the institutional Church had already been gut-shot by the craven capitulation of modern churchmen to the impious ravings of modern science. Therefore, the task of the Modernists couldn’t have been easier. It was like drowning puppies.

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  11. George,
    Good to hear from you again! It’s been some time since you last commented.

    Are you claiming that geocentrism is “dogma” or Catholic doctrine the denial of which is a mortal sin against the Faith?

    Two responses:
    According to Theologian Salavarri, “…decisions of this kind [regarding Biblical Commissions, condemning Galileo, ] are not absolutely infallible nor irrevocable; therefore the assent due to them, although anyone rightly ascents to them without a prudent fear of being in error (I.e., morally certain) , still it is not absolute nor absolutely irreformable.” (See “Sacrae Theologiae Summa” Volume IB, pg. 701).

    2. Pope St Pius X solemnly approved the following two answers and decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission on 6/29/1909 in response to several queries:

    Question # 7: “Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man’s intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?”

    Answer: In the negative.

    Question # 8: “Whether the word yom (‘day’), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?”

    Answer: In the affirmative.

    Therefore, one is free to accept or deny geocentric ideas and the idea that Earth is only 6,000 years old. The decisions of the time referred to in Genesis was approved by The Foe Of Modernism himself—Pope St Pius X.

    That there were Modernists seeking to infiltrate the Church prior to V2, conceded. That the approved theologians all taught error, denied. For this would ascribe error to the Universal and Ordinary Magisterium which is impossible lest the Church defected. (Heresy)

    Notice how vigilant the Church was in condemning Loisy and his ilk. So were Roncalli and Ratzinger censured. It was only after Roncalli usurped the Throne Of St Peter did we get to this point.

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  12. Introibo: “It was only after Roncalli usurped the Throne Of St Peter did we get to this point.”

    Hi Introibo,

    We’ve previously had a conversation about the strict requirement for solid evidence before we can observe that an individual is a papal usurper or pseudo-pope.

    As noted previously, the world hasn’t yet been graced with the exhaustive and definitive article by Fr. Cekada wherein he deals the killer blow to Roncalli’s papacy by demonstrating clear-cut actions and words that would’ve doubtlessly eliminated any possibility of Roncalli attaining or maintaining the office of pope. We know that John Salza demolished a facile argument put forth by Bp. Sanborn. Others have unsuccessfully sought to show heresy in “Pacem in Terris.” There are the persistent rumors of Freemasonry, etc. But nothing presented thus far has any probative value insofar Roncalli being a pseudo-pope. There is plenty demonstrating that Roncalli was a very bad egg, sailing close to wind of heresy (he is on file as being “suspected of Modernism”), but it appears that solid evidence to convict him has not yet surfaced.

    Arising from the preceding are three immediate questions.

    1) Should we or can we refer to a papal claimant as a definite usurper without a standard of evidence that clearly demonstrates this?

    2) Considering all of the mystery (e.g., white smoke appearing at one stage during the 1958 conclave), and confusion wrought by rumors and known, dubious associations Roncalli had with bad actors, is this enough to put John XXIII/Roncalli into a “doubtful pope” category, thus enabling informed Catholics to flee him like one would run from doubtful sacraments?

    3) Do you now have any unimpeachable/solid evidence clearly showing that Roncalli was a definite false pope?

    Please discuss.

  13. Roncalli has many flaws as you rightly pointed out. Let’s first review this general principle from Theologian Szal:
    “Nor is there any schism if one merely transgresses a papal law for the reason that one considers it too difficult, or if ONE REFUSES OBEDIENCE INASMUCH AS ONE SUSPECTS THE PERSON OF THE POPE OR THE VALIDITY OF HIS ELECTION, or if one resists him as the civil head of a state.” (See “The Communication of Catholics with Schismatics” CUA Press [1948], pg 2; Emphasis mine).

    Do we have reason to suspect the election of Roncalli? Yes.

    John XXIII
    Was removed from his teaching position at the Lateran University under “suspicion of Modernism.” He was on a list of suspected Modernists as far back as 1925, and which list was kept at the Holy Office.

    Received the red hat of a cardinal from the hands of French President Vincent Auriol in 1953 at Roncalli’s insistence. Auriol was a committed Socialist, of whom Roncalli said he was an “honest socialist.” Pope Pius XI had stated, ” No one can be, at the same time, a sincere Catholic and a true socialist.”

    Promoted ecumenism. He ordered the words removed from the prayer of Consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus : “Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism.” He changed the Good Friday prayers so as to remove the phrase “perfidious (i.e., faithless) Jews.” He further modernized the Mass, Breviary, and Calendar.

    He made the following statement which is isolated, yet enunciates a heretical idea:
    In his encyclical Pacem In Terris (1963), he stated in paragraph #11, “Also among man’s rights is that of being able to worship God in accordance with the right dictates of his own conscience, and to profess his religion both in private and in public.”

    I really don’t see how he can escape the charge of heresy and either lost office or never attained it.

    Could the Siri Theory be true ? Possibly. I don’t buy it, but I try to follow the evidence where it leads. US intelligence DID report only an hour or so after the original white smoke that Giuseppe Cardinal Siri was elected as Pope Gregory XVII.

    Finally, According to Dr. Rama Coomaraswamy, there was someone deeply into the teachings of Rudolf Steiner; one Angelo Roncalli, who would become “Pope” John XXIII and convoke the Second Vatican (Robber) Council! Coomaraswamy writes, “Then in 1924, after the death of his beloved bishop [Bp. Tedeschi], he [Roncalli] was called back to Rome and given a minor post in the Association for the Propagation of the Faith. At this time he also became a part time Professor of Patristics at the Lateran University, only to be relieved of his post within months “on suspicion of Modernism” and for “teaching the theories of Rudolf Steiner” (See The Destruction of the Christian Tradition, World Wisdom Press, 2006, pg. 134 & Footnote 17, pg. 154).

    Rudolf Steiner was an open occultist.

    In 1958, would a Catholic have reason to suspect Roncalli? The average Catholic, no. But with over 60 years of hindsight we DO. Hence, a doubtful pope is to be treated as no pope at all.

    —-Introibo

  14. Thanks for all that, Introibo.

    We’ve been through all this before. You’ve said nothing new. I don’t find your reasoning convincing.

    Bottom line: What you’ve listed is not solid evidence for heresy or apostasy.

    Your “cumulative” approach does not magically add up to Roncalli being a heretic/apostate/non-Catholic. What we need is a minimum of ONE example where it can be CLEARLY shown WHAT crime Roncalli committed and HOW that crime caused him to lose the faith/cease to be a Catholic.

    Rumors of being a Freemason, Freemasons claiming he was one of their own, rumors of being a Communist, hearsay in books, hearsay about what American security agencies thought at time, theories about Cardinal Siri being elected, Steiner being an occultist, your view of a passage out of Pacem in Terris, etc. etc., don’t even begin to approach proof for Roncalli being a false pope. As a lawyer, I think you know what I’m saying is true. And Canonical legal standards are what Roncalli must be judged against, and not, for example, a “preponderance of evidence” based on hearsay.

    What I was seeking was your thoughts on whether a Catholic today can legitimately put Roncalli in the “too hard basket,” DESPITE the FACT that one would be doing so based purely on a wealth of rumor, innuendo, unverified facts, etc. That’s what our “doubt” would be/is based on. Let’s be very clear about that. Based on a complete lack of solid evidence, I hardly think one can go about 100% declaring Roncalli an usurper. That’s not how justice works.

    Heavily in Roncalli’s favor is:

    1) Compelling, is that Roncalli was suspected of Modernism (heresy) as early as 1925 yet was never brought before the courts.

    2) Although the average Catholic layman wasn’t aware of Roncalli’s shenanigans, Church authorities certainly were. Everything you’ve mentioned was seen by the authorities.

    3) Compelling, is that Roncalli sat unchallenged (for years) as Cardinal under Pope Pius XII, right up until Pius’ death in 1958.

    4) None of the traditional clergy use your arguments. They obviously don’t think that what’s on your list suffices as examples that would prove the case against Roncalli. Again, where is Fr. Cekada’s article clearly showing that Roncalli was a false pope?

    Introibo: “I really don’t see how he can escape the charge of heresy and either lost office or never attained it.”

    Again, we need a minimum of ONE example where it can be CLEARLY shown WHAT crime Roncalli committed and HOW that crime caused him to lose the faith/cease to be a Catholic.

    I simply don’t know whether Roncalli was an impostor or not. Therefore I can’t declare him to definitely be an usurper.

  15. Even if I concede we don’t know if he’s an imposter or not, the fact remains that there is enough evidence TO SUSPECT his election.
    Teaching occult theories and being removed from a teaching post are FACTS. What was written in Pacem in Terris is religious liberty.

    Is this enough (plus the white smoke and verified reports from American intelligence) to be SUSPICIOUS of his election? Yes. It is enough to refuse obedience and treat him as a non-pope, even if he were valid.

    —-Introibo

  16. “verified reports from American intelligence”

    Are you talking about the story that the FBI or CIA had documents that Siri was elected? That story is extremely questionable. I believe the only source for it is an anti-Catholic book by someone whom I heard was an apostate from being a trad. He made that claim in his book, citing a document in the archives of the CIA. Several people have filed Freedom of Information requests for the document cited in the footnote, and the response has always been that no such document exists.

    Contrary to popular belief, the author who made this claim was never a federal agent, but only a journalist, and thus did not have special access to the CIA archives. The footnote that cited a specific CIA document was changed in subsequent editions of the book and replaced with a vague reference to “CIA sources” or something equally vague. Numerous people have contacted this author requesting more information about this whole situation, and he refuses to discuss it.

    All in all it looks pretty bogus to me.

  17. Introibo,

    Geocentrism is not a dogma, as it was not solemnly defined. However, it was determined by the Holy See to be the correct interpretation of Scripture. On what grounds, then, would any obedient Catholic deny it to be the correct interpretation? On no good grounds, that’s for sure. And yet, not merely some, but absolutely ALL of the theologians of the 19th and 20th centuries did in fact deny it. And here we are in the Great Apostasy. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

    You say that Salaverri considered the Galileo decision to be fallible. Of course, he would have to say that, since he obviously had no intention of assenting to it. Show me a theologian that is willing to assent to the decisions of the Holy See, and I will listen to him. The rest aren’t worth too much.

    As for the decisions of the Biblical Commission, Question #7 is not to the point, as none of the Fathers (nor anyone else, for that matter) ever considered themselves “strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?”

    On the other hand, Question #8 merely allowed (for the time being) the opinion that yom may mean a certain period of time, rather than a single 24-hour day. This question doesn’t bind the Catholic conscience to anything. Moreover, we are still bound to follow the common interpretation of the Fathers on Scripture, and ALL the Fathers interpreted yom to be a 24-hour day, except for St. Augustine, who believed that God created all things in a single instant, and the “days” were symbolic. Not a single Father considered yom to mean “a certain space of time,” and neither should we.

    But my main point is that the Modernists were not a sufficient cause to destroy the institutional Church.

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  18. George,
    The Church can never be destroyed, it was just driven underground—and I’m sure that’s what you meant.

    I hope you see where the problems lie:

    1. The Church defected as She was unable to prevent Her approved theologians from teaching something (geocentrism) that an obedient Catholic has “no good grounds” to reject. Yet all the popes allowed this to go unchecked.

    2. Show you a theologian Willing to assent to the decisions of the Holy See? Van Noort, Salaverri, Dorsch, Tanquerey, McHugh and Callan, etc. If they weren’t willing to submit to decisions of the Holy See, they would have been censured. Obviously, even St Pius X was a Modernist sympathizer and a weak pope since he did nothing to correct the theologians of his day.

    3. You claim:
    “Moreover, we are still bound to follow the common interpretation of the Fathers on Scripture, and ALL the Fathers interpreted yom to be a 24-hour day, except for St. Augustine, who believed that God created all things in a single instant, and the “days” were symbolic. Not a single Father considered yom to mean “a certain space of time,” and neither should we.”

    Yet, why would Pope St Pius X approve a decree that would allow you to contradict the common teaching of the Fathers on Scripture, something you say we are “bound” to do. Does this not make the decision of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and its approval by Pope St Pius X wrong??

    —-Introibo

  19. Not exactly relevant, but the term “institutional Church” makes me very uncomfortable in the way it seems designed to create a distinction between the Catholic Church and an institution called the “institutional Church”. Obviously for a Catholic there is no distinction between the two. Creating new terms to make a distinction between two things that our Faith teaches are identical seems like a bad idea.

  20. The institutional Church is merely an aspect of the One, Holy Catholic Church, which I have thought up to illustrate that part of the Church that has defected. It can be defined as the Catholic Church in its aspect as a unified and coherent network of diverse ecclesiastical communities subject to a hierarchy that possesses from God the authority to teach and govern it. Since it is clear that this aspect of the Church no longer exists, it can be rightly said that the institutional Church has been destroyed.

  21. Introibo,

    Again, thanks.

    There is enough evidence to suspect his election IF, as I said before, one is allowed to suspect based purely on a wealth of rumor, innuendo, unverified facts, etc. Are we?

    Teaching occult theories and being removed from a teaching post are NOT FACTS. The first is a story that was retailed by Dr. Coomaraswamy, and the second is a FACT, but it’s ALSO a FACT that Roncalli remained in place as a Cardinal under Pope Pius XII, and is therefore presumed to be papabile.

    No. What was in Pacem and Terris was NOT religious liberty, and I pointed it out last time we discussed this. I think you need to review that exchange and your responses.

    Since when do Catholics rely on the CIA and FBI to learn when their new pope has been elected? I’ll grant that something unusual happened with the smoke, but none of the Cardinals came out at the time and denied John XXIII’s election.

    Introibo: “Yes. It is enough to refuse obedience and treat him as a non-pope, even if he were valid.”

    Who says that you can declare that suspicions based on this, particular, set of flimsy “evidence” is enough to refuse obedience and treat him as a non-pope, even if he were valid? No one. That’s “Introibo’s Law.”

    Sedevacantists recognize Paul VI onwards as pseudo-popes based on SOLID, IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE. For some reason you’re not applying this standard to Roncalli.

    Again, Fr. Cekada and other clerics aren’t using your reasons. Fr. Cekada avoids John XXIII for precisely the same reason he avoids Pius XII’s liturgical changes. He hasn’t taken the huge bundle of rumors, false ideas about Pacem in Terris etc., and then declared that they create suspicion to enable one to definitively declare Roncalli an usurper.

    Again, I don’t know if Roncalli was an usurper. Neither do you, so perhaps you should pull back on DECLARING him a pseudo-pope, and instead just state that YOU believe he was problematic to the point that YOU have your doubts that he was genuine.

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  22. I have an excellent memory but I don’t remember every exchange I’ve had with readers over the course of nine years. I believe Pacem in Terris to promote religious liberty. If you wish to argue it go right ahead.

    When do Catholics rely on the FBI and CIA for information about a conclave? Since the information is now public and declassified and casts a serious doubt over the election. A specific cardinal with a specific papal name was mentioned.
    See https://novusordowatch.org/fbi-consultant-cardinal-siri-elected-pope-1958/

    That is real credible FACT that there is serious concerns over the 1958 conclave. None of the Cardinals denied Roncalli’s election because if the resignation of the other elected cardinal was coerced, its invalid. Later, Siri may have genuinely resigned with no duress but that has no retroactive Force with regard to Roncalli.

    Fr Cekada And the other Traditionalist clerics don’t use this line of reasoning. Who cares? They have no ordinary jurisdiction and none were approved pre-V2 theologians or canonists as was my spiritual father, Fr Gommar A DePauw, JCD. The SSPV denies the validity of Thuc bishops. Fr Cekada would have us believe an Una Cum Mass is mortal sin, but you can freely avail yourself of elderly V2 apostate priests with valid orders for Confession outside the danger of death. I follow no one blindly in this age of the Great Apostasy.

    If Roncalli is not an objectively doubtful pope as per Theologian Szal, you must submit to him.

    Therefore,
    The 1962 Missal with the name of St Joseph in the Canon and the elimination of the people’s Confiteor, the Misereatur, and Indulgentium must be the only Mass for you. (Ironically, SSPX refuses to eliminate those prayers). Do you attend the Mass of 1962 and acknowledge it as the normative Mass?

    Frs. Congar, de Lubac, Hans Küng and other censured heretics were all rehabilitated by Roncalli without abjuration of heresy. Do you accept them as approved Theologians?

    The whole group of theologians implicitly condemned by the Encyclical Humani Generis in 1950 had been called to Rome at the behest of John XXIII and also rehabilitated. Do you accept them?

    He rehabilitated Montini. All the cardinals he appointed are valid. Paul VI should therefore be accepted until November 21, 1964 when he signed Lumen Gentium. You might want to update your Mass to the first steps of the Novus Bogus in January 1964.

    A doubtful Sacrament is treated as no Sacrament in the practical order. Ditto for a dubiously elected pope. If there is no objective doubt, one must submit.

    If you want to consider him pope, go ahead. You might want to rethink that while you read approved Theologian Kung.

    —-Introibo

  23. Introibo,

    Thanks, yet again.

    We debated recently, about a year ago or so. I did argue successfully against your notion that Pacem in Terris contains heresy. You’ve forgotten. But it’s there in one of the threads.

    Go read the NOW article again. There’s no probative value. It’s admitted that the information cannot be verified. For all we know it could’ve been completely fabricated. Therefore all else you say that flows from it (the report) is inadmissible.

    Do you exclusively attend Pian Masses? Have you dictated to the SSPV that they must use the 1958 Missal because you believe Pius XII was the last true Pope? If not, do you stay home alone?

    As for all the rest:

    Introibo: “A doubtful Sacrament is treated as no Sacrament in the practical order. Ditto for a dubiously elected pope. If there is no objective doubt, one must submit.”

    Excuse me, but you haven’t even proved he was a “dubiously elected pope.” Therefore it looks like you must submit. Time to dust off your copy of Theologian Kung’s manual?

    You’ve proved nothing other than Roncalli was a bad pope. (I wish you could prove otherwise.)

    Tell me Introibo, did Fr Gommar A DePauw, JCD, approved theologian and canonist, ever write a formal theological opinion, laying down the proof that Roncalli was a false pope? Did he, perchance, use Roncalli’s poor taste in rehabilitated theologians as a reason why he ceased to be a Catholic? If he (your authority and spiritual father) didn’t, are you bound to accept Roncalli and his theologians? It works both ways. Btw, did Fr. DePauw even give an informal opinion on John XXIII? His informal opinion is as good as anyone else’s, so if he had one I’d like to hear it. By the way, was Fr. DePauw a sedevacantist? If so, when did he come to the sedevacantist conclusion?

    Last time we spoke, you said you were going to go away and do some research. This is what I was asking for this time: A minimum of ONE example where it can be CLEARLY shown WHAT crime Roncalli committed and HOW that crime caused him to lose the faith/cease to be a Catholic.

    You haven’t supplied.

    I’m uncertain about John XXIII. I simply don’t know. I look for solid evidence. You’re certain without having solid evidence. That’s the difference between us.

    But only God knows for certain.

    On that basis I prefer not to definitively declare Roncalli was an usurper.

    P.S. One moment it’s high praise from you for Fr. Cekada, next moment it’s “Who cares about him!” Fr. Cekada is a prolific writer. It IS significant that he hasn’t written condemning John XXIII, whether you think so or not.

  24. You: We debated recently, about a year ago or so. I did argue successfully against your notion that Pacem in Terris contains heresy. You’ve forgotten. But it’s there in one of the threads.

    Reply: With a 90 hr. plus work week and a family, I have a hard time believing I can do this much, so please don’t expect me to go looking for an exchange a year ago. If you want to debate it hear fine. Roncalli took a line right from John Courtney Murray’s heretical religious freedom.

    You: Go read the NOW article again. There’s no probative value. It’s admitted that the information cannot be verified. For all we know it could’ve been completely fabricated. Therefore all else you say that flows from it (the report) is inadmissible.

    Reply: Did you read the following?
    Such are the claims of Paul Williams, former consultant of the FBI, researcher, and author. Despite Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests made to the United States government, we have so far been unable to get copies of the cited declassified intelligence documents, and thus we cannot verify whether Williams’ claims about what these documents say are accurate. However, the mix-up in smoke signals of the conclave of 1958 is verifiable historical fact, recorded in the newspapers which reported on the conclave day of October 26, 1958, such as the New York Times and the Houston Post.

    As proof of this, we are producing below in PDF format the front pages of two American newspapers that reported on the conclave. Both of them mention the white smoke and the official announcement of a successful election on October 26 (two days before John XXIII), with everybody expecting the appearance of the new Pope, who, however, never did appear (keep in mind that white smoke is not produced until the Pope-elect has accepted his election):

    Download PDF: “New Pope: False Signals: [Vatican] Radio tells of election, bells sounded in error”, The Daily Gleaner, Oct. 27, 1958, p. 1
    Download PDF: “Cardinals Cast 8 Ballots Without Choosing Pope”, Newport Daily News, Oct. 27, 1958, p. 1
    So, at the very least we know that the conclave had indicated the election of a true Pope two days before Angelo Roncalli claimed the pontificate.

    Dr. Williams’ claims regarding the election of Cardinal Siri as Pope Gregory XVII and its subsequent suppression, are very significant for the Catholic Church because it is not possible for anyone, including “French cardinals,” to “annul” an accepted papal election. Nobody is able to take a valid papal election away from the Pope — only the Pope himself can resign, and even then there are restrictions as to the validity of a resignation: “Resignation is invalid by law if it was made out of grave fear unjustly inflicted, fraud, substantial error, or simony” (1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 185). It is not possible to validly elect another Pope if a true Pope is already reigning.

    If, then, a true Pope — whether Cardinal Siri or anyone else, for that matter — was already reigning when Cardinal Roncalli was chosen, this would guarantee, per divine law, the invalidity of the election of John XXIII, no matter how many people recognized him as the true Pope afterwards.

    To prevent any misunderstanding, please note that Novus Ordo Watch does not endorse or recommend Dr. Williams’ book The Vatican Exposed, which is anti-Catholic to a large extent. We make reference to it only because the information it shares regarding the conclave of 1958 appears to be based on the OBJECTIVE FINDINGS of the U.S. intelligence community and hence would seem to be sufficiently reliable. (Emphasis in Original)

    (Continued below)

  25. Remember that we need not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt (moral certainty) but SUSPICION. A reasonable suspicion in civil law is seen as more than a guess or hunch but less than probable cause. It is based on “specific and articulable facts”, “taken together with rational inferences from the circumstances. Even a 1L would concede reasonable suspicion under these facts and circumstances.

    You:Do you exclusively attend Pian Masses? Have you dictated to the SSPV that they must use the 1958 Missal because you believe Pius XII was the last true Pope? If not, do you stay home alone?

    Reply: Yes, Pian Masses ARE NORMATIVE. It should be followed, but it is not heretical to follow pre-1955. I asked if you believed they are normative. You deflected answering. Have I mentioned this to the SSPV. YES. To SEVERAL PRIESTS AND A BISHOP. I cannot “command them” into doing otherwise.

    You:Excuse me, but you haven’t even proved he was a “dubiously elected pope.” Therefore it looks like you must submit. Time to dust off your copy of Theologian Kung’s manual?

    You’ve proved nothing other than Roncalli was a bad pope. (I wish you could prove otherwise.)

    Reply: Your wish came true> I’ve proven reasonable suspicion. If you don’t think rehabilitating hard-core Modernists, combined with all the other articulated facts and circumstances raises a reasonable suspicion, you need to dust off a law book and some books on basic logic–Bayesian probability would be a good place to start.

    You: Tell me Introibo, did Fr Gommar A DePauw, JCD, approved theologian and canonist, ever write a formal theological opinion, laying down the proof that Roncalli was a false pope? Did he, perchance, use Roncalli’s poor taste in rehabilitated theologians as a reason why he ceased to be a Catholic? If he (your authority and spiritual father) didn’t, are you bound to accept Roncalli and his theologians? It works both ways. Btw, did Fr. DePauw even give an informal opinion on John XXIII? His informal opinion is as good as anyone else’s, so if he had one I’d like to hear it. By the way, was Fr. DePauw a sedevacantist? If so, when did he come to the sedevacantist conclusion?

    Reply: You missed my point entirely (no surprise). Traditionalist clergy are not approved theologians or canonists. They have the minimum training, and no one has Ordinary Jurisdiction. Fr. DePauw’s was at least a canonist. There is currently no infallible head so don’t cite to e.g., Fr Cekada as a stand alone authority. Capiche?

    I submit he taught religious liberty, he was suspect of Modernism, he was removed from his teaching post, and we have strange circumstances surrounding his election (to say the least). All of this gives reasonable suspicion because the conclave gave the white signal, withdrew it, and the man who emerged wasted no time rehabilitating Modernist theologians along with other actions that a pope would not do. If you can cite another pope who rehabilitated large numbers of censured theologians in one fell swoop, I’d like to see it.

    You:You’re certain without having solid evidence. That’s the difference between us.

    Reply: I’m certain there is reasonable suspicion, that is enough.

    You: One moment it’s high praise from you for Fr. Cekada, next moment it’s “Who cares about him!” Fr. Cekada is a prolific writer. It IS significant that he hasn’t written condemning John XXIII, whether you think so or not.

    Reply: I give praise when it’s due, and castigate when necessary. He’s a prolific writer, conceded. He hasn’t written on Roncalli–that’s all it proves, unless you can read minds or he has told you otherwise. Interesting that what you find significant becomes so. but all the evidence surrounding Roncalli doesn’t even add up to reasonable suspicion. Hopefully, you’ll never need to sit on a jury.

    —Introibo

  26. Introibo,

    Thanks for all that.

    Introibo: “Could the Siri Theory be true? Possibly. I don’t buy it, but I try to follow the evidence where it leads.”

    Neither do I, and unlike you I don’t think it raises reasonable suspicion. The white smoke is mysterious but not enough to definitively declare Roncalli a papal usurper. But suddenly a theory you “don’t buy” is used to apply a secular law definition of “reasonable suspicion” to Roncalli’s election. Here are the FACTS -No one in the actual conclave raised the alarm at the time. None had a reasonable suspicion/raised doubts about the election result. We’re talking about Cardinals whom were actually present versus a lawyer from NY opining about “reasonable suspicion” decades later/second guessing these Cardinals and the election that not one of them raised the alarm about. Explain that?

    Of course I read the article. It’s full of the usual speculation, and it’s admitted that it’s not been verified. Anonymous sources told anonymous sources that Siri was elected. (Told the Americans fairytales for all we know).

    No deflection. You’re the one who ignores your opponents’ points. Let’s say I thought that the Mass of John XXIII was the normative Mass. (Btw, it may be.) I’d be in no position to force clergy into saying it. The Pian Mass is not heretical. Should I attend SSPV or CMRI or just stay home alone? You’re the one who misses points.

    I don’t have time to continue at the moment. I’ll get back to you later.

  27. The Siri Theory —-that Siri remained pope, and has a successor somewhere, I don’t buy. That he (or another) could have been elected and forced to resign is a possibility.

    No one raised the alarm as to Roncalli’s election. Explanation: it is possible that the one elected resigned under duress, but they thought it to be legitimate.

    Facts: Roncalli was under suspicion of Modernism, was a Socialist sympathizer, and was removed from his teaching position.

    Facts: There was a strange conclave where it seemed a pope was elected, then it changed, then Roncalli appears. There is evidence that American intelligence thought Siri had been elected.

    Fact: Roncalli begins to rehabilitate ALL THE MODERNIST AND CENSURED THEOLOGIANS. Something a real pope would not do. Combine that with Pacem in Terris and all the rest and you’ve got a reasonable suspicion.

    You don’t need a law degree to figure THAT ONE OUT.

    —-Introibo

  28. How is this passage from Pacem in Terris heretical: “Also among man’s rights is that of being able to worship God in accordance with the right dictates of his own conscience, and to profess his religion both in private and in public.”? Notice it says “right dictates”. This qualification of “right” saves it from heresy; if the passage had left “dictates” undefined then a case could be
    made against its orthodoxy. I have doubts about Roncalli’s being a pope; I have no doubts that Montini and successors were/are non-popes.

    Regarding Cardinal Siri: he openly accepted Roncalli, Montini, Luciani and Wojtyła as Vicars of Christ as well as Vatican 2 and the Bogus Ordo, so, regardless of what happened at the 1958 conclave, he wasn’t a pope either.

    I read the following on Novus Ordo Watch some time back:
    “As we all struggle to explain fully what has happened to the Catholic Church since the death of Pope Pius XII, it would behoove us to acknowledge that we simply do not have all the facts; that is, we do not know everything that has transpired, for example, with regard to the conclave of 1958. This is where the whole Novus Ordo Sect mess started, and right from the beginning New York’s Cardinal Francis Spellman had a choice remark to make about the new “Pope”, Angelo Roncalli, who had assumed the name of John XXIII: “He’s no Pope. He should be selling bananas” (John Cooney, The American Pope: The Life and Times of Francis Cardinal Spellman [New York, NY: Times Books, 1984], p. 261). If only he had!

    Interestingly enough, Spellman “refused to place John XXIII’s coat of arms either at St. Patrick’s [cathedral] or the chancery” and instead “had a life-size wax figure made of Pius XII” (ibid.). Did Spellman, who of course had participated in the secret conclave, know something we can only speculate about? This is the same Cardinal Spellman about whom Mgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton wrote in his personal diary that he was “coming out of the [1958] conclave looking white and shaken” (Fenton, Personal Diary: “My 1960 Trip to Rome”, entry for Nov. 2, 1960). Whatever transpired in that most fateful conclave, we know from the results that it was not of the Holy Ghost.”
    In connection with the above, see also https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/fatima-2018-like-sheep-without-shepherd-derksen.pdf .

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  29. Leo,
    I agree with much of what you say; you make salient points. As to Pacem in Terris, according to the Pontifical Academy Of Social Sciences, “Interestingly, it was along this latter front that the move was made directly toward the subject of religious liberty during the first session of the Council (11 October to 8 December 1962). Only eleven days after his opening al- locution, Pope John raised the Secretariat for the Promotion of Christian Unity to the same rank as the Council Commissions, thus empowering it to submit schemata. In the preparatory phase to the first session, two draft texts on the Church (Scheme Constitutionis de Ecclesia) included a chapter entitled ‘On the Relations Between Church and State’. Had the issue re- mained in that context, it would have been considered solely in the light of ecclesiastical public law. Now, having been empowered to submit schemata, Cardinal Bea’s Secretariat produced a document that was first en- titled ‘Freedom of Cult’, and a few months later,‘On Religious Freedom’.6
    Second, in December of 1962, shortly after learning from his physicians that he had a terminal cancer, Pope John instructed Msgr. Pietro Pavan of the Lateran to draft a new encyclical, which would be called Pacem in terris. The drafting committee understood that one sentence in particular would have a direct effect on the schemata being drawn by the commissioners – ‘Also among man’s rights is that of being able to worship God in accordance with the right dictates of his own conscience, and to profess his religion both in private and in public’.7 (§14) But, in order to allow the Council to exercise its full deliberative weight, these sentences on religious liberty were carefully, even somewhat ambiguously, written.
    Published on MaundyThursday,Pope John christened Pacem in terris his ‘Easter gift’.8 It was also called his ‘last will and testament’, because he died on 3 June 1963. For our purposes, it was his own, indirect schema for a number of issues that would come before the second session of the Council (29 September to 4 December 1963), including religious liberty. (See http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/pdf/acta17/acta17-hittinger.pdf).

    That encyclical helped the enemies of the Church and under Canon 2315, that puts one under suspicion of heresy. That’s my take. In any event I thank you for adding to the evidence that we have REASONABLE SUSPICION as regards Roncalli’s election—-and that’s good enough!

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  30. Introibo,

    Introibo: “Your wish came true> I’ve proven reasonable suspicion. If you don’t think…”

    Wrong. You THINK my wish came true. Big difference. You’ve proven nothing. Every traditional Catholic ALREADY knows that Roncalli was a bad egg. We don’t need you to prove that. There are two aspects to this which you convenient leave enjoined. 1) Solid evidence that the election was invalid. 2) Solid evidence that Roncalli was a heretic/apostate/non-Catholic. As far as 1: You have confusing smoke signals at the beginning of the 1958 conclave followed by unfounded “possibilities.” That’s it. That’s the sole reason for your “unreasonable suspicion” regarding the legitimacy of the election. Confusing smoke signals and an unverified US intelligence report which, if it were verified, has every “possibilty” of being riddled with disinformation.

    But confusing smoke signals have apparently occurred previously.

    https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Gibson

    “In the early 1990s, Gibson and Tom Costello hosted a video called Catholics, Where Has Our Church Gone?[26] which is critical of the changes made to the Catholic Church by the Second Vatican Council and espouses the Siri Thesis that in 1958, after the death of Pope Pius XII, the man originally elected pope was not Angelo Roncalli, but another cardinal, “probably Cardinal Siri of Genoa” (a staunch conservative candidate and first papabile). Gibson stated that the white smoke which emanated from a chimney in the Sistine Chapel to announce a new pope’s election was done in error; black smoke signifying that the papacy was still vacant was quickly created and the public was not informed of the reason for the initial white smoke. A still photograph of a newspaper story about this event is shown. “Had our church gone up in smoke”? asked Gibson. He stated that the new pope was forced to resign under duress and two days later, the “modernist Roncalli” was elected pope and took the name “John XXIII”. In 1962, Roncalli, as Pope John XXIII convened the Second Vatican Council.[26] In 2006, Hutton Gibson reversed his position on the Siri Thesis, asserting that this theory was based on a mistranslation of an article written on October 27, 1958 by Silvio Negro for the evening edition of the Milan-based Corriere della Sera.[27] A similar event also happened in 1939; in that case a confusing mixture of white and black smoke emanated from the Sistine Chapel chimney. In a note to Vatican Radio, the secretary of the Papal conclave at the time, a monsignor named Santoro said that a new pope, Eugenio Pacelli, had been properly elected regardless of the color of the smoke. Pacelli took the name Pius XII.[28]”

    As for 2: The Catholic Church doesn’t excommunicate people due to “reasonable suspicion.” One is not declared a heretic due to suspicions. We don’t decide that such and such a bidhop is a heretic based merely on a suspicion. There was plenty of opportunity to deal with Roncalli IF the Church had any real evidence against him. Instead, he ended up Cardinal and Patriarch of Venice under Pope Pius XII. By the way, Roncalli banished Bugnini. He didn’t resurface until after his death. The fact is that your secular law definition of “reasonable suspicion” (of Roncalli being a heretic) is NOT enough for you to definitively declare Roncalli an usurper. Thank God these matters don’t rely on secular lawyers arbitrarily deciding that there’s “reasonable suspicion,” and therefore “X bishop is no bishop at all!”

    To be continued…

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  31. Your ignorance shows. Reasonable suspicion regarding an election allows one to consider the one elected a dubious pope. You don’t need moral certitude.

    Hutton Gibson’s assertions do not jibe with the objective facts put forth since; and which I cited from NOW above.
    Let me give another example:
    if your neighbor had been Michael Jackson would you allow your child to spend the night there with a friend? Why not? He was never convicted of child molestation. However, he thought there was nothing wrong with a 44 year old sharing a bed with children because “nothing sexual went on” and all he does is give them hot milk and cookies before sleeping in the same bed with them, which he believed “the whole world should do.” Combine this with all his other bizarre behavior, and It would be reasonable to suspect he might be a child molester.

    Not enough to convict of anything but enough to be suspicious! That’s all I need and what I’ve got!

    —-Introibo

  32. Introibo,

    Your ignorance is astoumding.

    Your so-called “reasonable suspicion” is unfounded. Unfounded in terms of the election, as I’ve just shown, and unfounded as far as suspecting Roncalli and then using that to definitively declare him a heretic. Reasonable suspicion cannot be used to declare prelates heretics. That’s the point. What, precisely, don’t you understand about that? It’s not the principle that’s the problem, it’s your application of it that’s problematic. So spare me your recycled Michael Jackson examples. And for, I hope, the last time: the US security agency report is UNVERIFIED. Hutton Gibson’s presentation of FACTS obviously trumps your suite of “ifs,” “possibilities” and unverified reports which could be a whole lot of disinformation. See, it works both ways. Even if you can manage to dig up the report, I’ve already cast doubt on it due to it coming from an anonymous source/s to an anonymous sources/s in US intelligence; everyone knows that disinformation is a large part of spycraft.

    Btw, you missed my point when I referenced Fr. DrPauw. Am I surprised?

    1) I was not using Fr. Cekada as a Church authority.(I subsequently explained why I referenced him.) You assumed I was, then went on a little tear. But, oddly, you threw Fr. DePauw in as an example of a true canonist and theologian, so my questions relating to Fr. DePauw still stand. You deflected. Now, I’ve got another question re: Fr. DePauw.

    First. Do you now admit you were wrong about Roncalli preaching heresy in Pacem in Terris? If you still cling to your error, do you acknowledge that you are, stubbornly, almost on your own with that? But far more impottantly, DID Fr. DePauw object to Pacem in Terris at the time, declaring it was heretical? Did the learned theologian Guerard des Lauriers? How about Cardinal Ottaviani? Any of the distinguished, conservative churchmen of the time? Anyone? Anyone at all? (Why not? It’s obvious heresy, right?) Answer: No. Just the lawyer from NY in 2019.

    I rest my case.

    I’m uncertain about Roncalli. The difference between us is that you think you can definitively declare people to be heretics purely on your suspicions which you (erroneously) deem to be “reasonable.” I don’t.

    In charity. When you make comments along the lines of praising Fr. Cekada when it’s warranted and castigating him when necessary, you sound capricious, atbitrary and narcissistic. Just sayin’…

    And I noticed that your Lenten resolution went out the window. I was very polite, but you started to become rude, so I retaliated. Will you now go back to following your own rules, please?

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  33. 1. Hutton Gibson’s report is verified? Yeah. I suggest you reread NOW article. The papers reported FACTS about the conclave and the mix up. Gibson also has plenty of citations that Roncalli was a Freemason including Theologian Arriaga. But since it doesn’t meet you manufactured requirements for “proof” you will conveniently discount it.

    2. The facts remain that Roncalli was censured, there was a mix-up of smoke at the conclave, and Roncalli appears rehabilitating ALL the censured theologians alive from Pope Pius XII. Something unprecedented and no pope would do. Read the proof offered by Leo above regarding the actions and sayings of Cardinal Spellman WHO WAS THERE. Is that good enough for you? How about the fact that Cardinal Ottaviani was so sure of his election he even had his names picked out as Pope Pius XIII. Ottaviani told Fr. DePauw, “There was something seriously wrong.” (With the conclave).

    Did Fr object to Pacem at the time? Yes. He said it was “offensive to pious ears.” See also my reply to Leo.

    I’m glad you rested your case. I just wish you were a lawyer opposing me. You’d make my work so much easier and my lawsuits so much easier to win.

    Finally, how about this quote from Roncalli:
    “Catholics and Orthodox are not enemies, but brothers. We have the same faith; we share the same sacraments, and especially the Eucharist. We are divided by some disagreements concerning the divine constitution of the Church of Jesus Christ. The persons who were the cause of these disagreements have been dead for centuries. Let us abandon the old disputes and, each in his own domain, let us work to make our brothers good, by giving them good example. Later on, though traveling along different paths, we shall achieve union among the churches to form together the true and unique Church of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
    (See Luigi Accattoli, When A Pope Asks Forgiveness, New York: Alba House and Daughters of St. Paul, 1998, pp. 18-19.)

    Do you believe that the Eastern Schismatics and the True Church have “the same Faith”?

    Is this not heresy? Or does it not constitute evidence?

    Finally, if you don’t like the way I come off sounding, please don’t interact with me and presume to tell me how to run my blog. I have been more than charitable.

    —-Introibo

  34. Introibo,

    1. I suggest you actually read the Gibson report again. It references an Italian newspaper report that rolled off the presses during the 1958 conclave. It’s verifiable history. It has far more credence than the fairytale you’re using to claim “reasonable suspicion” about the election. I haven’t manufactured any requirements for proof. The Church doesn’t allow one to declare prelates heretics based on reasonable suspicions which are based on fairytales. That’s what you’re doing. Yes, I’ll discount all hearsay or similiar evidence. This isn’t a cruddy, civil case in a New York court with low evidentiary requirements.

    2. So Roncalli was censured. That automatically makes him a heretic; but if it doesn’t, don’t worry, a mix up with the smoke – just like what happened at the election of Pius XII – is enough to reasonably suspect the election. Yeah. What Leo relayed was interesting, but in NO WAY DOES IT SUFFICE AS HARD EVIDENCE AGAINST THE VALIDITY OF THE ELECTION. I wouldn’t even doubt it on the strength of that information.
    It’s merely stories from books written by people about other people using third hand information. Zero guarantee of accuracy. Do you believe every story you read? And Spellman’s banana remark sounds like it was made due to a personal dislike of Roncalli. Again, what’s missing are the firsthand accounts from those present that there was something seriously wrong with the election – threats, violence, coercion, duress. There’s none. Just unspecific “he said, she said” “evidence.” Cardinal Ottaviani seems very confident, but so were others, including Cardinal Siri, according to the popular stories. What a PITY that Ottaviani didn’t ELABORATE when he spoke to Fr. DePauw. It’s ALWAYS the way. No real evidence. But tell me, did Fr. DePauw opine that Roncalli was ipso facto excommunicated for “rehabilitating” those theologians, or is just you unsuccessfully trying to establish the false and novel corollary that no true pope would do that?

    3. You still haven’t answered my questions about Fr. DePauw. Did Fr. DePauw publicly or even privately state that Pacem in Terris was heretical, and as a result John XIII was a heretic and no pope at all?

    4. You reopened my case. I only wish I could oppose you in court. I’d never lose a case.

    5. Wow! I agree that that quote from Roncalli sounds bad. I found it on the Dimond Bros. Feeneyite website, along with all their hearsay “evidence” about Roncalli being a Freemason. Its authenticity is immediately dubious. Thing is, and what you can’t seem to grasp, Roncalli was never brought to trial for heresy, tried and convicted. He was “suspected of Modernism” in 1925, and then went on to become a Cardinal and Patriarch of Venice under Pope Pius XII.

    What I’m still after is a minimum of one example where it can be clearly shown what crime Roncalli committed, when he committed it, and how that crime caused him to lose the faith/cease to be a Catholic.

    Finally. No, I like interacting with you. I just thought you were sounding a bit unfriendly. I realize now that I was obviously just imagining it. My bad.

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  35. 1. Please read the newspaper reports embedded in the NOW report that is HISTORY. Not speculation.

    2. You’re conflating two separate issues. (A) Roncalli being a heretic and (b) being invalidly elected. If Siri had been elected and coerced into resigning and Ottaviani was elected, his election would be invalid, although he was definitely not a heretic.

    So, if we have reasonable suspicion that the election may be invalid that is enough to cast him a dubious pope. Remember that the standard is SUSPICION. That does not require proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    2. Now let’s see what we have:
    A censured cleric removed from his teaching position. His friends are Socialists and Freemasons. There is suspicious smoke and reports from American intelligence that another cardinal was elected. There are two Cardinals present at the conclave who thought something was wrong. Roncalli begins rehabilitating all the censured heretics.

    Taken together, is there reason to suspect that Roncalli was not validly elected given the circumstances and his behavior—especially after he became “pope”? You bet.

    Consider reasonable doubt is a low standard of proof. It cannot be arbitrary and capricious.

    3. Fr DePauw was sede since at least 1999, and would not discuss details. I answered what he thought of Pacem at the time and the document was praised by the Masonic Lodge.

    4. Before you could even hope to compete you’d need to learn evidentiary standards and not conflate issues.

    5. I have the book. The quote is legitimate. This is the genetic fallacy, something is wrong or dubious because of its origin. The National Enquirer is a rag, but they correctly reported John Edwards was cheating on his wife. Interesting too, is that you don’t immediately find Hutton Gibson automatically suspect. Do you deny the Holocaust too? Not enough evidence? Everything bad in the world is the result of Jews?

    Never brought up on trial for heresy. Neither was de Lubac, or sodomite Baum. Neither was Montini. How did HE lose office if there was no trial?

    There is reasonable suspicion such that we may hold Roncalli as a dubious pope, which is no pope in the practical order.

    —-Introibo

  36. Introibo,

    Firstly. YOU, in fact, were the one who was conflating the two issues -election/heresy. I pulled you up on it in a previous post. I distincly separated the two because you were combining them.

    Did you carefully read anon @ 8:22’s post? I did. It confirms all I said about your use of a fairytale to claim reasonable suspicion. You can’t claim reasonable suspicion using the NOW fairytale about the FALSE story from the fraudulent anti-Catholic author about the supposed US intelligence reports claiming Siri was elected. Anon @ 8:22 put paid to your reasonable suspicion claims using that nonsense as a reason. NOW had old NEWS reports about the smoke confusion. So what? There were similiar reports in 1939 when there were similar problems with the smoke at the election of Pope Pius XII.

    I don’t have time at the moment to answer your entire post, but I will later.

    In the meantime, when fif you first formulate your “argument” about “reasonable suspicion” and put it in writing here?

  37. I want to thank you for inspiring me. If you would be so kind, I’m doing my next post on John XXIII, and we may pick up in the comments on Monday where we leave off today.

    I’ve always said I’ve learned a lot from my readers and I mean it. Had it not been for you coming back again about Roncalli, I wouldn’t have started my research into him again, and see things from a fresh perspective.

    Thank you my friend for challenging me. The unchallenged mind can’t grow. We may not agree, but I respect your intellectual pugnacious proclivity. It’s a good thing to have! Until Monday!

    God Bless,

    —-Introibo

  38. Anonymous May 15, 2019 at 12:28 PM:
    You said: “Spellman’s banana remark sounds like it was made due to a personal dislike of Roncalli.” Note that Cardinal Spellman also stated: “He’s [Roncalli] no Pope.” This sounds more than an affirmation of a personal dislike. Pacem in Terris was an unfortunate encyclical, but it can’t be convicted of explicit heresy. What Roncalli said about the “Eastern Orthodox” looks heretical to me!
    By the way, when you said, “We know that John Salza demolished a facile argument put forth by Bp. Sanborn”, what were you referring to?

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  39. Hello Leo,

    Thanks for your post, but most of all for your correct assessment of Pacem in Terris not being heretical. Not unlike yourself I have my personal doubts about John XXIII, but they certainly don’t warrant me declaring he’s a heretic based on what’s in Pacem in Terris. That wouldn’t be just.

    Leo: ‘Note that Cardinal Spellman also stated: “He’s [Roncalli] no Pope.” This sounds more than an affirmation of a personal dislike.’

    I agree that it’s a positive assertion. It could easily be merely an affirmation of a personal dislike and distrust of Roncalli’s overall abilities. Just as is the following affirmation made by a sales manager of a car dealership: “He [Fred] is no car salesman. He should be on an assembly line in a cannery.” This speaks to Fred’s ability/suitability/skillset etc.

    But let’s say this [Spellman’s] comment was somehow meant to mean Roncalli wasn’t legitimate. Where’s the followup from Spellman? He was a Catholic Cardinal. If he had the solid evidence that Roncalli was an usurper – for whatever, legitimate reason – why did he just make a cryptic comment; an (alluring, nowadays) allusion to Roncalli being a fraud and then just leave it at that?
    Again, what’s missing are the firsthand accounts from those present that there was something seriously wrong with the election – threats, violence, coercion, duress. There’s none. Just assorted cryptic comments posing as evidence. But one thing seems to be beyond any doubt – Spellman was no fan of Roncalli. And unless or until we get a clarification of the statement, it must be interpreted as I’ve indicated, else we do gross INJUSTICE to both Spellman and Roncalli.

    I was referring to the article by Salza on their website. I assumed Introibo had seen it. Although Salza concludes correctly, he does it in his usual dodgy manner. From memory, Salza – big advocate of not using hearsay evidence to prove religious points (I agree) – ends with using the old, recycled statement Roncalli SUPPOSEDLY made on his deathbed when he SUPPOSEDLY learned that the Council was taking a wrong turn, to wit: “Stop the Council! Tell them to stop the Council!” – or words to that effect.

    Young Johnny Salza is an insufferable hypocrite, no doubt about that!

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  40. Knowing now what we know about Roncalli, would any of you let him teach the Faith to your children? I wouldn’t because from what I know about him now, he seems to have a different idea as to what the Catholic Faith entails then his predecessors. For that doubt alone, I would avoid any of his teachings.

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  41. PS-you can substitute any conciliar claimant to the Papacy in the place of Roncalli and you would get the same answer. NO

“We Are The World” and other Blasphemies at Francis’ Interreligious Peace Meeting in Bulgaria

The Francis Show in Bulgaria…

“We Are The World” and other Blasphemies at Francis’ Interreligious Peace Meeting in Sofia

[UPDATE 07-MAY-2019: Prelates of the Orthodox religion refused to attend the meeting.]

On Apr. 10, 2015, we told you that Jorge Bergoglio’s religion is basically a theological version of the famous song We Are The World, although the word “theological” was perhaps too generous.

The Jesuit pretend-pope is currently in the middle of a blather tour “Apostolic journey” to Bulgaria and North Macedonia. Today, May 6, he participated in an interreligious prayer meeting for peace in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia, together with Orthodox, Armenians, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims (see photos here). At the beginning of the event, as he and his entourage entered the stage, a children’s choir began singing the 1985 USA for Africa hit We Are The World.

For those not familiar with it, let’s review the original for a minute.

Written by American pop icons Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie, We Are The World was an immensely successful song featuring a choir of roughly three dozen famous musicians, many of whom chimed in for a quick solo performance of a line or two of text. The lyrics of We Are The World are problematic throughout, but one line in particular takes the cake. The text is entirely Naturalist — it pretends that natural life is the greatest good and that human happiness can be procured by merely natural means. This alone makes the song highly unfit to be used for any occasion, but especially in a supposedly Catholic setting.

In the first verse, Paul Simon and Kenny Rogers proclaim that “life [is] the greatest gift of all” before Billy Joel and Tina Turner inform us that “love is all we need.” Filled with all sorts of sentimental platitudes, this kind of song is right up Francis’ alley.

But then it gets more serious. Generously granting God a cameo appearance for the second verse, Willie Nelson sings: “As God has shown us, by turning stone to bread”, and Al Jarreau finishes the sentence with: “and so we all must lend a helping hand” (at 2:00 min mark here).

Yeah, that’s a great example: God turned stones into bread. Remember? Wait, how did that go again? Let’s see:

And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost, returned from the Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the desert, for the space of forty days; and was tempted by the devil. And he ate nothing in those days; and when they were ended, he was hungry. And the devil said to him: If thou be the Son of God, say to this stone that it be made bread. And Jesus answered him: It is written, that Man liveth not by bread alone, but by every word of God. …And all the temptation being ended, the devil departed from him for a time.

(Luke 4:1-4,13)

We have news for the singers of We Are The World: God did not turn stone into bread, either to feed Himself or to feed others. He once turned water into wine and fed thousands of people with only a few loaves, but never did He turn rocks into bread. It was Satan’s temptation of Christ that He should do so, but our Lord refused and would rather go hungry, for man does not live by bread alone. The popular hit, then, contains a frightful blasphemy: It proclaims that God listened to the counsel of the devil, gave in to his temptation, and turned stone to bread.

Further on in the song, two singers express one of the main errors of Naturalism, namely, that our success depends on our own natural strength: Michael Jackson warns that “when you’re down and out, there seems no hope at all” before Huey Lewis exhorts: “But if you just believe, there’s no way we can fall.” Yes, man believes in himself, tries to fix the mess he’s made all by himself, and is presumptuous enough to think that he cannot fail if he just tries hard enough. At the same time, he refuses to accept Christ the King, whose “yoke is sweet” and “burden light” (Mt 11:30), and in Whom we can do all things (see Phil 4:13; Mt 21:22). The result is precisely the world we live in today. Congratulations.

So, what is a song like that doing at a “papal” event that supposedly asks God for peace?

Alas, the choir at the event in Sofia used the exact English lyrics of the original, and you can hear the blasphemous line being sung at the 2:18 min mark:

Obviously, the children are not to blame here — they are victims in all of this, more than anyone else.

We Are The World is one of those schmaltzy “let’s all hold hands and make this world a better place” hymns that the rotten music industry manufactures every so many years, where artists worth untold millions express their sadness at how bad humanity has become before they go back to their blasphemies, their drugs, their impurities, their greed, their divorces, and their abortions. Similar such tunes include Band Aid’s Do They Know It’s Christmas? (1984), Koreana’s Hand In Hand (1988), and Michael Jackson’s Heal the World (1992).

That was then, and this is now. And guess what: The world still hasn’t become a better place. Why not? Because merely natural means — singing songs, holding hands, dialoguing, playing soccer, lighting candles, and practicing “encounter” with “open hearts” — cannot possibly work. They cannot work because real and lasting peace requires grace, which is a supernatural created gift from God. Divine grace can move souls, who are affected by concupiscence as a result of original sin, to practice love of God and neighbor. Loving God and our fellow-men means obeying the Divine Law and obeying all legitimate human laws, as well as forgiving one another for wrongs committed.

Only Jesus Christ can give this supernatural means of obtaining peace, and therefore only the peace of Christ is true and lasting: “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as theworld giveth, do I give unto you” (Jn 14:27). We have explained this at length before, showing the true Catholic position directly from the Church’s own magisterial documents, so we will not repeat it here:

Some will object that Francis has not used merely natural means — after all, he prayed for peace today in Sofia, and surely prayer is a supernatural means. Indeed it is, but it goes without saying — or should, anyway — that if our prayer is odious to God, as joint prayer with people who do not even believe in Jesus Christ or the Trinity certainly is, then obviously the intention prayed for will certainly not be granted (see Mich 3:4; Jn 9:31; Jas 4:3). Besides, what Francis is seeking divine assistance for is not the supernatural peace of Jesus Christ but rather the Naturalist multi-religious “peace” and “human fraternity” of Freemasonry, precisely “as the world giveth”.

The interfaith meeting for peace today consisted of a mix of songs, invocations, and prayers, from each of the six different religions represented on stage. The Muslim imam, pictured above, chanted “Allah is great” and “There is no other god besides Allah” and “Mohammed is his servant and envoy”, thus explicitly attacking the Most Holy Trinity. Needless to say, no “Catholic” on stage was fazed, least of all Francis, who worships the same god as the imam anyway:

Three Jewish children sang the 1995 Liora song Amen, which, although focused on the natural, at least appears to contain no blasphemy.

Francis himself recited the Prayer of St. Francis and afterwards made some brief remarks in which he proclaimed his belief that for peace it is necessary “that we adopt dialogue as our path, mutual [collaboration] as our code of conduct, and reciprocal understanding as our method and standard”. In other words, whoever refuses to dialogue with other religions, collaborate with them, or understand them, is an enemy of peace.

We sum up: All religions are put on the same level and thus tacitly declared to be fundamentally equal. In the words of Pope Pius VII, “truth is confounded with error and the holy and immaculate Spouse of Christ, the Church, outside of which there can be no salvation, is set on a par with the sects of heretics and with Judaic perfidy itself” (Apostolic Letter Post Tam Diuturnas). The Christ-denying chant of the Muslim imam, which asserted there to be no god but Allah, was set next to Handel’s glorious Hallelujah chorus, in which Jesus Christ is rightly acknowledged to be “King of kings and Lord of lords”, who “shall reign forever and ever.” What an absurd and blasphemous spectacle!

This abominable event was perfectly in line with Bergoglian “theology”: Each group gets to do its thing, and then we all sing We Are The World.

Peace can’t be far now!

2019 Marks the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Destruction of the Mass in Newchurch Engineered by the Freemason Bugnini and the Leftist/Modernist Paul VI-Montini

From: The TRADITIO Fathers

Hannibal Bugnini & Paul VI-Montini

The Co-conspirators Who Destroyed Roman Catholic Worship
Hannibal Bugnini (Left) and Paul VI-Montini
2019 Marks the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Rollout
Of the Full-blown Protestant-Masonic-Pagan “New Mess” of 1969
Fabricated by the Masonic Presbyter Bugnini
And the Leftist/Modernist Newpope of the Newchurch, Montini
The Poisonous Fruit of Bugnini’s and Montini’s Destruction
Of Roman Catholic Worship Has Been Devastating:
Two-thirds of Catholics Have Walked out in Silence since 1969

2019 marks the fiftieth anniversary of the rollout of the full-blown “New Mess” as the invalid Protestant-Masonic-Pagan service to replace the Traditional Latin Mass, canonized in perpetuity by the dogmatic Council of Trent and Pope St. Pius V. The Chief Architect of the new “liturgy,” as it was termed, was Annibale (Hannibal) Bugnini, who appears to have been a Freemasonic plant, whose mission was to destroy the Roman Catholic worship. In that effort, Bugnini had many co-conspirators, among them a coven of heretics who took over Vatican II and turned it into an Anti-council:

  1. Louis Bouyer
  2. Raymond Brown
  3. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
  4. Yves Congar
  5. Charles Curran
  6. Henri De Lubac
  7. Gerald Ellard
  8. Joseph Jungmann
  9. Hans Kung
  10. Thomas Merton
  11. John Courtney Murray
  12. Karl Rahner
  13. Edward Schillebeeckx
  14. Hans Urs von Balthasar

and even a man seen in a business suit and tie wandering the council halls, who was then known as Fr. Josef Ratzinger, but later to become Newpope Benedict XVI-Ratzinger and forced out of the Newpapacy for paedophile complicity. 

That Bugnini was a plant is known from a letter of congratulations on his work from the Worshipful Master of the Roman Freemasons and from the fact that he went from a curate in a poor Roman parish to become the powerful Secretary General of the Consilium (which could be compared to the Soviet Praesidium). He was a master manipulator, sneaking in smaller changes first until, having softened up his colleagues to constant change, he then sprang the big items. The first was in 1956: a wholesale gutting of the ancient Holy Week rites, the most sacred of the Church, going back to the Apostles. Even certain otherwise traditional Catholic groups and priests today are still victims of this Protestantized version. 

Having succeeded with the gutting of Holy Week, Bugnini forged ahead to destroy Catholic worship by:

  1. suppressing the true Mass by replacing it with the invalid “New Mess”
  2. introducing vulgar tongues into the sacred services
  3. introducing the sacrilege of “communion in the hand,” which had been condemned by popes from the second century on
  4. introducing Protestantized “concelebration” to undermine the priesthood
  5. destroying the priesthood in Newchurch by the New Ordinal of 1968, which no longer ordains priests, but only Protestantized ministers “to preside over the assembly of the people”
  6. removing hundreds of Saints from the liturgical calendar and the Canon of the Mass, which was itself replaced by a Protestantized “eucharistic prayer”
  7. replacing the traditional Divine Office, used substantially from the time of the early Church, with a “Litany of the Hours” featuring excerpts from the writings of heretics

In this effort Bugnini had the connivance of the first Newpope of the Newchurch of the New Order, Paul VI-Montini, a noted Italian Leftist/Modernist. In order to cover up Montini’s complicity in heresy, not to say apostasy, Francis-Bergoglio, the latest heretical Newpope, made him a phony New Order “Unsaint.” [Some information for this Commentary was contributed by the National Catholic Register.]

True Catholics. the poisonous fruit of Hannibal Bugnini’s destruction of Roman Catholic worship have been devastating. A survey at the time showed that after the introduction of the “New Mess” in 1969, one-third of Catholics walked out in silence during the next decade. Since that time, it is estimated that another third have walked out. Former Catholics are often heard to say: without the Traditional Latin Mass, it just isn’t the Catholic Church any longer. And they are right. It isn’t. The true Catholic Church is now to be found in the “catacombs,” just as it was the early Church. Today these catacombs are the independent traditional Catholic churches, chapels, and oratories pastored by independent traditional Catholic priests. These sites are now rising, just as the fake Newchurch of the New Order is sinking to the bottom of the pit.

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